Fwd: Waterhole? Air pocket? Dug out? Secret teleportation experiment gone wrong?

[Alexander Betser]

Hi!

What can it be? 

 

See more photos at https://photos.app.goo.gl/tdQAxBbszv1TFHoM8. Two panoramic photos show the position of this phenomena within a beach profile.

It was spotted at 7:45 pm right after the 6/29 storm at Riis Beach between Bay 10 and 11. Where all the excavated sand went? Why is the slope almost vertical?

Thank you

[isa...@aol.com]

Looks to me like the holes that result when someone uses an umbrella with an auger, especially the older Sand Anchors, that have a big propeller shaped base. . Also, the metal detector people dig some pretty deep holes and don't fill them in. The sand that they dig out and pile on the side either washes or blows away. 

When we remove our umbrella, I always fill in the hole, but a lot of people don't. Lots of times, when it's high tide, I start walking into the water and all of a sudden, I'll step into a hole that comes half way up my leg. 

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[Alexander Betser]

Hi Ida!

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:23 PM 'isa...@aol.com' via Jamaica Bay <jamai...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Looks to me like the holes that result when someone uses an umbrella with an auger, especially the older Sand Anchors, that have a big propeller shaped base. .

Over 1ft in diameter? That someone has to have horsepower to drive such an anchor.

 

Also, the metal detector people dig some pretty deep holes and don't fill them in.

Because of vertical sides the hole must have been dug out when the sand is moderately wet because dry or saturated sand will settle down. Also the hole is surprisingly round. Bipeds and quadrupeds dig holes with more oval entrances.

 

The sand that they dig out and pile on the side either washes or blows away. 

If it was washed away the sides would collapse and hole would quickly fill in. If it was blown away there should be a ridge in downwind direction. This hole has even edges that are much smaller than the volume of the hole itself. Looks like someone just pulled a large pot out of the sand 

When we remove our umbrella, I always fill in the hole, but a lot of people don't. Lots of times, when it's high tide, I start walking into the water and all of a sudden, I'll step into a hole that comes half way up my leg. 

I haven't seen umbrellas with foot-sized anchors and driving it to a half-leg depth would require more effort or patience than the average human can deliver.

Thank you

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Subject: [Jamaica Bay] Fwd: Waterhole? Air pocket? Dug out? Secret teleportation experiment gone wrong?

Hi!

What can it be? 

 

See more photos at https://photos.app.goo.gl/tdQAxBbszv1TFHoM8. Two panoramic photos show the position of this phenomena within a beach profile.

It was spotted at 7:45 pm right after the 6/29 storm at Riis Beach between Bay 10 and 11. Where all the excavated sand went? Why is the slope almost vertical?

Thank you

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[isa...@aol.com]

If you're using the old Sand Anchors, it's easy to dig a really deep hole. 

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[Alexander Betser]

Isanoff, please share a picture or a product name of such an anchor. I struggle to find something of a comparable size on Google Images. Maybe it was called differently back then.

Thank you

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[isa...@aol.com]

Here it is: 
https://www.islandbeachgear.com/26-inch-the-sand-anchor-umbrella-holder.html

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[Alexander Betser]

This is an awesome anchor and can leave quite a dangerous hole especially in damp sand. However it will not make a shoe-sized hole depicted in this subject.

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