It is coming... A I for pt diagnosis

[Michael Sitar]

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[David Cantor]

Actually we already have a product in beta testing that will do this for mental health conditions using patient history, symptoms, and psychological/neuropsychological test results and will later integrate the findings from qEEG analyses (already done for alpha stage testing). It provides a complete report of the patient history (has an online module that allows patient to input history and symptoms), list psychological tests and medical/educational document review, summarize the findings of all test results, provide the ICD-10 diagnoses and justify them based on the findings, define each disorder for the reader, and provide recommendations for follow-up based on the findings. All recommendations use published scientific citings and a scientific reference list is generated supporting conclusions and recommendations. Let me know if you are interested. 

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- yes I would be interested

Terence McL. Semple PhD
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[David Cantor]

Hi Terence - we have you on the list and probably will touch back with you after the holidays. 

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[Mitch Sadar]

Is anyone else concerned that applying AI to the DSM diagnostic process is simply giving extended life to what is just an inherently flawed process?

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[David Cantor]

Actually Mitch - if you examine what is being done - I feel it improves the process and gets away from on reliance on the DSM - and a purely behavioral taxonomy to one which is more functionally based and can now integrate neuroscience and other physiological information  - 

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[to...@brainm.com]

I agree, that the DSM and ICD are inherently not viable clinical evaluations.  They measure primarily the ability to bill insurance,

Methods that are more oriented to the NIH RDOC criteria will have more value in the long run,

I have outlined some of this in detail in a blog post at:  http://brainmaster.com/symptoms/

 

Best to all,

 

Tom Collura

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[JEFFREY CARMEN]

Precisely on target!

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[Mitch Sadar]

David,

Thanks for your response. I do have concerns, but I will check it out more thoroughly.

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[David Cantor]

The tool that we are creating are for the use of standardized psychological testings with age normed referencing and other types of data input and will include and integrate qEEG data and help to interpret the findings in the context of these other findings. 

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[David Cantor]

Mitch - 

I appreciate your concern and would welcome your input - so please feel free to contact me offline at can...@mindmotioncenters.com about concerns and ways we  might improve or circumvent - this is a process that is going to happen - it is inevitable - it is happening all over in all aspects of health care, but let's agree that we can monitor its development and hopefully steer it in the direction that it needs to be done correctly - 

Dave

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[Erik Olesen]

Thanks very much to all of you. This is interesting stuff. I haven’t been a great fan of AI, but my wife’s large counseling group recently started using it for charting, and it’s quite extraordinary. It is saving the therapists a lot of time, and the end result is beautifully written and spot on. Go figure.

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[David Cantor]

Hi Terence - 

As a possible adopter - would you have some time to have a short conversation with me and my partners next week or so?  We would like to share what the program does now but also learn more about how the program may be a "fit" for how you could use it. I am flexible most any day after 1 pm,  let me know -

Best,

Dave

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[Rachel Gilgoff]

Hello, 

Curious if anyone has any insights about this group: https://neurobankai.com/ ?  They are using "AI-powered qEEG analysis"? 

All thoughts welcome!

Rachel

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[David Helfand]

I’m always skeptical of these because there are so many “protocols” and approaches out there. Also, I’ve tested a few by sending them an EDF file for analysis, and compared it to my own analysis. I would say the technology is at a B+ at the moment. I’d consider using it in a few more years potentially.

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[David Cantor]

I generally agree with David - there are many roads to Rome - qEEG was never meant to be a diagnostic tool in and of itself - the metrics, particular univariate profiles are not that specific. That is why we any such "diagnostic" aid instruments really should be doing so in the context of psychometrics in which correlates and probabilities can be more properly asserted. That is why the AI tool we are developing first looks at the cluster of history, symptoms, nd psychometrics properties to define a "knowledge" set that then examines the qEEG profile and provides a more finely tuned hypothesis of diagnostic formulation and therefore cn more provide a more finely tuned set of recommendations.  

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