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Respected seniors ,Just keep your family in the situation of late Mr.RKE sir's family that too after your demise and then comment .Which will be realistic one , no doubt prior to commenting , you may consult your successors /family and then comment which will definitely relfect your families heart felt feelings .Noting else and nothing to hurt anybody or noting anything or anybody to personnel .Opined in general , considering and consulting my family members , which I felt realistic one .Yogesh Patil
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 22:38, CA Haituk Desai (GMail)<hrd...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear All
I have a suggestion for the Elango Family.
As is well known, most Insurers habitually deduct fees at their whims going against GIPSA Schedule.
It is quite likely that Mr. Elango considered this double payments as an adjustment against earlier short payments from this Insurer. As far as I know, majority of our surveyor brothers who are honest, face hand to mouth existence.
Personally without knowing full facts, I would not throw mud at one of our late brothers who I suppose worked tirelessly for our fraternity.
Moreover, one should check whether the family members are legally liable for this double payment.
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 11:58, Rajkp singh<rajkps...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear all,When the legal heirs are entitled to assets of late R.K.Elngo, why not his liabilities can be taken over by them.Please comment on my viewThanks & regards,CMA R. K. P. Singh,Surveyor.On Sat 3 Apr, 2021, 11:04 AM 'Yogesh Patil' via Indian Independent Insurance Surveyor And Loss Assessors Bengal, <iiisla...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Why should our families carry the burden of our professionalism and ethics after us ?Our professionalism and ethics ends with us.
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Dear allSurvey fees twice paid, for many claims, is it not a gross negligence of approval team. Is the system is too weak to accept twice payments, it means insured payments also released. It’s a huge mistake of malpractice of certain officers, is it a practice to lute government money,For families who don’t know, what exactly happened how they liable, even they’re not sure how much of pending fees to all issued Reports,How many surveyor shared such information with their family, fees received or pending or repayment of such payments,
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Dear Colleagues,
It is really surprising as to why seniors are fighting in such a cheap manner.
Mr. R.K. Elango is an eminent personality in our surveyor field and he has very rich knowledge and has contributed a lot to us by sharing his knowledge through his books and discussions, seminars etc. Tarnishing his image after his demise is not acceptable in any manner.
First of all let us understand what this Double Payment you people are talking about. Is it the receiver’s mistake or payer’s mistake? First you have to understand this. The double payment made by any company either public sector or private sector insurance company shows that the existing payment system is very weak and it has to be strengthened. If the receiver of double payments comes to know about this he might have returned it. It is not a crime as expressed by some panelists. System in place is weak and it has to be addressed. Supposing Late Mr. Elango has billed twice/double billing to the insurance company for the same job and thereby he is getting double payment, then one can question his loyalty and systems. Mr. Elango has not made any such mistake and it is the mistake of the insurance company which has made double payment for the same bill.
Now you leave it to the insurance company and it is for them to collect the excess payment. Do you know the complete information about this? Whether this double payment has been brought to Mr. Elango's knowledge during his lifetime by the insurance company? It is not appropriate to comment without knowing the full facts of the incident. Simply do not try to make a mountain out of anthills. In what way the surveyor community is affected by this? Instead we have to focus on our elected representatives giving bills in a student note book page, not submitting the accounts to IIISLA in time, keeping the application of surveyors pending for more than 8 months, not depositing the D.D/PO sent by surveyors in time to the bank, addressing the issues /black spots pointed out by IRDA etc. etc.
We have totally forgotten the very first core point in our IIISLA’s Memorandum of Association and Articles of Association, that is imparting and improvising insurance education. I don’t see any attempt being made. Simply, we are wasting our time pulling each other’s legs.
This is my personal opinion.
Thanks & Regards,
Dear Shri Vadivelu,Whether the mistake of double payment was from Insurer or receiver. Sometimes insurer, even forget to pay your fees and sometimes not in time. Ultimately solve the payment issue by paying you in slash mode after years afraid of audit or account system or many times by Rs. 1 only.Leaving your shameful mind about a deceased colleague, pl search the way what actually we can do for this issue, if we can. If we can't then we should stop digging discussion into more depth...Regards,
Debashis Karmakar
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Dear allSurvey fees twice paid, for many claims, is it not a gross negligence of approval team. Is the system is too weak to accept twice payments, it means insured payments also released. It’s a huge mistake of malpractice of certain officers, is it a practice to lute government money,For families who don’t know, what exactly happened how they liable, even they’re not sure how much of pending fees to all issued Reports,How many surveyor shared such information with their family, fees received or pending or repayment of such payments,
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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 22:39, 'aiyappan kaliyaperumal' via Indian Independent Insurance Surveyor And Loss Assessors Bengal<iiisla...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear sirs,.I am also have the same view as said by Mr.Bhatiaji.
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I think this payment was adjusted against earlier fees cut by Insurers.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Pramod Vora <vora....@yahoo.in>Date: 03/04/2021 10:52 (GMT+05:30)To: iiisla...@googlegroups.com, "'raghavan k. v.' via Indian Independent Insurance Surveyor And Loss Assessors Bengal" <iiisla...@googlegroups.com>, 'B Mohanty' via Indian Independent Insurance Surveyor And Loss Assessors Bengal <iiisla...@googlegroups.com>, "CA Haituk Desai (GMail)" <hrd...@gmail.com>, insurance-su...@googlegroups.com, 'iiisla-bengal' <iiisla...@googlegroups.com>, 'iiislagroup' <iiisl...@googlegroups.com>, 'insurance_surveyors' <insurance...@googlegroups.com>, 'indian-insurance-sur eyors' <indian-insura...@googlegroups.com>, 'iiisla-surveyors' <iiisla-s...@googlegroups.com>Subject: RE: R.K.ELANGO FAMILY FACING LEGAL ADVOCATE NOTICE ON BEHALF OF NATIONAL INS.- REG.We have no right to speak about anyone. What is the use to declare the matter in open.Is Elango cheated the Insurance company?It is not appropriate to say anything about a person who has died and why should we care which is not related to us.The insurance company is the one to watch.
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What about ethics and professionalism if senior leaders follow such ways.
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Dear Fellow Members,
The payment can be recovered from the concern Officers/Employees, who wrongly paid the amount twice.
If the Insurer deducted our fee wrongly, they never pay the remaining amount. Ruther, they say it will be adjusted in the next bill.
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(Mrinal Pathak)Surveyor & Loss Assessor,
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Subject: Re: {Surveyors:35479} Re: R.K.ELANGO FAMILY FACING LEGAL ADVOCATE NOTICE ON BEHALF OF NATIONAL INS.- REG.
Sir
Absolutely I am of the same opinion.
But his family members does not have "LEGAL "LIABILTY.
M.R Rao
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Dear all,When the legal heirs are entitled to assets of late R.K.Elngo, why not his liabilities can be taken over by them.Please comment on my viewThanks & regards,CMA R. K. P. Singh,Surveyor.
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