SK1706 07 Jan 2019

Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 7, 2019, 4:13:14 AM1/7/19

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Dear Members,

Location: Tidworth, London

Date: December 2018

Elevation: 109 m.

Habit : Wild

Sent by friend.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 7, 2019, 5:15:48 AM1/7/19

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Thanks, Saroj ji

J.M. Garg

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Jan 24, 2019, 7:12:11 AM1/24/19

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 24, 2019, 8:30:59 AM1/24/19

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Saroji

i was going to ask some questions, but

saw its not going to yield any answers

since it is sent by a friend

we will never know its height

its basal rosette of leaves' pictures etc to make a ready diagnosis

given all that handicap

i still venture to say

this is a dry thistle head

hairy / prickly stem seems to have angles, perhaps four

of most likely a common Teasel we see in american midwest,

a weed imported from europe

favorite of dry flower arrangements for fall decorations in home

Botanical name may be If WE had all the info:

Dipsacus fullonum.

THIS COULD ALSO BE Dipsacus laciniatus, but we will never know

for that distinction we need to see the leaves.

References:

INvasiveness across USA: https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=3018

this site also has very apt pictures to id it in field

Weed guide from American Midwest : http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/weedguide/single_weed.php?id=98

Do you think your friends could be a liitle more enthusistic in taking pictures please?

thanks for sharing

usha di

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Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 24, 2019, 8:35:34 AM1/24/19

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Gargji

oh i forgot to type above....

the final diagnosis

should be:

Dried flowering head of Common teasel, Dipsacus sp. not otherwise classified.

thanks

usha di

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 25, 2019, 5:05:52 AM1/25/19

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There are so many dipsacus which look similar in dry state. However,

could it be Dipsacus fullonum ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 25, 2019, 9:14:01 AM1/25/19

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NO

After all these years of my trying to teach that in cases like this

its not prudent to try and nail down a species level diagnosis.

it is what it is in the picture:

Dried flowering head of Common teasel, Dipsacus sp. not otherwise classified.

fini.... iti...

usha di

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 25, 2019, 9:19:54 AM1/25/19

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ठिक है उषा दी!

धन्यवाद!

सरोज कसजु

Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 25, 2019, 10:06:00 AM1/25/19

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wow how do you get hindi in gmail?

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 25, 2019, 10:32:28 AM1/25/19

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http://www.easynepalityping.com/

Then any other language option, type and copy paste😁 !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Ushadi Micromini

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Jan 25, 2019, 10:45:38 AM1/25/19

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thanks

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 24, 2021, 8:02:13 AM7/24/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Dipsacus‎ species- Tidworth, London

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 24, 2021, 8:03:15 AM7/24/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Dipsacus‎ species- Tidworth, London

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 24, 2021, 8:30:53 AM7/24/21

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Dipsacus fullonum

Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 24, 2021, 8:51:04 AM7/24/21

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This is how it is differentiated from closely similar cultivated species D. sativus

1. Receptacle bract ending in a straight, ± flexible spine; involucre bract generally erect or upcurved ..... D. fullonum

1' Receptacle bract ending in a recurved , stiff spine; involucre bract generally ±spreading or reflexed ..... D. sativus

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