Albizia chinensis------for validation

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Satish Nikam

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Dec 5, 2016, 9:50:02 AM12/5/16
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Friends,
           Your help in Id. please.
date/time:may 15
location:aambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune
height:huge tree more than 30-40 ft.
other info:at this high elevation i guess it is A. chinensis.
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satish nikam

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 5, 2016, 11:24:50 PM12/5/16
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Nice images, Satish ji


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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Dec 6, 2016, 11:32:35 AM12/6/16
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May be A. chinensis but I do not see the conspicuous foliaceous stipules.  A close-up of leaves and leaflets would have helped.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nice images, Satish ji

J.M. Garg

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Dec 7, 2016, 7:54:31 AM12/7/16
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Thanks, Tapas ji

satish nikam

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Dec 10, 2016, 7:08:25 AM12/10/16
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Thanks Tapas ji but this is all the photos I have.
regards
satish nikam


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Thanks, Tapas ji


On 6 Dec 2016 10:02 pm, "Tapas Chakrabarty" <tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:
May be A. chinensis but I do not see the conspicuous foliaceous stipules.  A close-up of leaves and leaflets would have helped.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:54 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nice images, Satish ji


On 5 Dec 2016 8:20 pm, "'Satish Nikam' via efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Friends,
           Your help in Id. please.
date/time:may 15
location:aambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune
height:huge tree more than 30-40 ft.
other info:at this high elevation i guess it is A. chinensis.
regards
satish nikam

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 23, 2016, 2:16:20 AM12/23/16
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

May be A. chinensis but I do not see the conspicuous foliaceous stipules.  A close-up of leaves and leaflets would have helped.                                         

To me it looks closer to Albizia julibrissin Durazz.  as per comparative images at Albizia                              


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Satish Nikam

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Dec 23, 2016, 4:02:43 AM12/23/16
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Srikanth Ingalhalikar has identified it as Albizia chinense
Thanks all .
Satish Nikam


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J.M. Garg

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Jan 8, 2017, 3:43:02 AM1/8/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

May be A. chinensis but I do not see the conspicuous foliaceous stipules.  A close-up of leaves and leaflets would have helped.                                         

To me it looks closer to Albizia julibrissin Durazz.  as per comparative images at Albizia                              

Srikanth Ingalhalikar has identified it as Albizia chinense

Thanks all .
Satish Nikam

 

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Satish N. Pardeshi

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Jan 8, 2017, 8:57:32 AM1/8/17
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Hello all
I can see foliaceous stipules in one of the pics. I feel it is A.chinensis.

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Satish Pardeshi

radha veach

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Jan 9, 2017, 12:08:22 AM1/9/17
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to me it is Albizia chinensis.

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Radha

J.M. Garg

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Jan 9, 2017, 12:34:35 AM1/9/17
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Thanks,  Radha ji

Satish Nikam

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Jan 9, 2017, 4:40:16 AM1/9/17
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Thanks everyone
regards
Satish Nikam


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J.M. Garg

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Apr 6, 2021, 6:34:49 AM4/6/21
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 I think Albizia julibrissin Durazz as stamen colour is pink as per keys at Flora of China.   

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radha veach

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Apr 6, 2021, 10:52:48 AM4/6/21
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It is Albizia chinensis. In this part of India at least, stamens are always pink at the ends. I can see the large charactersitic stipules in two of the images. The bark is typical. This species is common in the location mentioned.
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 6, 2021, 12:12:22 PM4/6/21
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Hi, Radha ji,
What are the keys in Flora of Maharashtra ?
I can not see the stipules with these images. 
Hi, Satish ji,
May I request you to pl. post high resolution images of the 1st and 2nd image.



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radha veach

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Apr 6, 2021, 11:44:01 PM4/6/21
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HI Garg ji,

the stipules can be seen in the first and second images posted. Pardeshi Sir has also mentioned that he saw the stipules.
The stipules of this tree are deciduous and not so often seen on the old growth.
It is not enough to go on flower colour in final identification of a species.
thank you.

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 6, 2021, 11:48:23 PM4/6/21
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Flora of China can not be ignored easily. I have found that colour of stamens is a very important character, particularly in Albizia.

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