Solanaceae fortnight 06

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Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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Feb 18, 2015, 1:48:23 AM2/18/15
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Solanum americanum Mill.(= Solanum nigrum L), wild as well as cultivated under shrub, wondered by seeing it from coastal area to 2300 m at Doddabetta, Nilgiris, immature fruits are fried and taken as a crispy side dish, leaves are used as green. Fresh ripen fruits are eaten raw. Two varieties are found here, one with small scales on the stem another nearly smooth.

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 22, 2015, 12:53:44 AM2/22/15
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Thanks, Santhan ji.
But Solanum americanum & Solanum nigrum are different.

On 18 February 2015 at 12:18, Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <ponsa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Solanum americanum Mill.(= Solanum nigrum L), wild as well as cultivated under shrub, wondered by seeing it from coastal area to 2300 m at Doddabetta, Nilgiris, immature fruits are fried and taken as a crispy side dish, leaves are used as green. Fresh ripen fruits are eaten raw. Two varieties are found here, one with small scales on the stem another nearly smooth.

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surajit koley

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Feb 22, 2015, 1:35:16 AM2/22/15
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Santhan Ji,

As I searched for information on Indian Solanaceae for the past two days I came across a number of articles and papers. I didn't understand much of the content though.

I copy the following words from an article found in http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJPT/article/view/931

"Working on the S. nigrum complex of the Indian subcontinent, Schilling and Anderson (1990), on the basis of chromosome number as well as some other morphological characters, recognized three distinct species, viz. (i) S. americanum Mill., 2n = 2x = 24 (inflorescence umbellate, fruits shiny purple-black with reflexed sepals), (ii) S. villosum Mill., 2n = 4x = 48 (fruits very distinctive orange, orange-brown or reddishorange), and (iii) S. nigrum L., 2n = 6x = 72 (inflorescence racemiform, fruits dull purple-black with sepals adhering to the fruits)."


I do not know if more recent papers negate the above claims.

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Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan

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Feb 23, 2015, 12:01:41 AM2/23/15
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Thank you very much for your information.

J.M. Garg

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Mar 4, 2015, 2:46:56 AM3/4/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

But Solanum americanum & Solanum nigrum are different.- from me                                         

As I searched for information on Indian Solanaceae for the past two days I came across a number of articles and papers. I didn't understand much of the content though.

I copy the following words from an article found in http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJPT/article/view/931
"Working on the S. nigrum complex of the Indian subcontinent, Schilling and Anderson (1990), on the basis of chromosome number as well as some other morphological characters, recognized three distinct species, viz. (i) S. americanum Mill., 2n = 2x = 24 (inflorescence umbellate, fruits shiny purple-black with reflexed sepals), (ii) S. villosum Mill., 2n = 4x = 48 (fruits very distinctive orange, orange-brown or reddishorange), and (iii) S. nigrum L., 2n = 6x = 72 (inflorescence racemiform, fruits dull purple-black with sepals adhering to the fruits)."
I do not know if more recent papers negate the above claims.
Thank you
Regards
surajit

 


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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2020, 6:42:48 AM11/14/20
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Solanum americanum ? 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2020, 6:43:44 AM11/14/20
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Distributed as  Solanum americanum ? 
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 13, 2022, 10:08:51 AM2/13/22
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I think it can be Solanum anguivi Lam. as in Dinesh ji's images at Solanaceae Fortnight :: Solanum anguivi FOR VALIDATION :: Saphale Ghat :: DVFEB25/33, though the image does not provide many details. 
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