MS March, 2020/02 Senecio sp. for ID

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M Sawmliana

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Mar 6, 2020, 12:10:54 AM3/6/20
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Location : Hmuifang, Mizoram
Altitude : ca. 1,450 m.
Date : 05-03-2020
Habit : Subshruby herb
Habitat : Wild

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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 6, 2020, 12:14:09 AM3/6/20
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Synotis triligulata (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 6, 2020, 9:51:55 PM3/6/20
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To me looks different from images at Synotis triligulata



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Mar 6, 2020, 9:54:50 PM3/6/20
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Hi, Sawmliana ji,
What are the species reported from your area ?

M Sawmliana

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Mar 6, 2020, 11:16:36 PM3/6/20
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Synotis cappa, S.lushaiensis, and S.triligulata are recorded in Mizoram


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Hi, Sawmliana ji,
What are the species reported from your area ?

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 at 08:21, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
To me looks different from images at Synotis triligulata

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 10:44, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Synotis triligulata (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen
Thank you
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On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 10:55 am, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Location : Hmuifang, Mizoram
Altitude : ca. 1,450 m.
Date : 05-03-2020
Habit : Subshruby herb
Habitat : Wild

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 6, 2020, 11:53:09 PM3/6/20
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Thanks, Sawmliana ji.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 7, 2020, 12:27:24 AM3/7/20
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Synotis pentantha (Merr.) M.Tang, C.Ren & Q.E.Yang ??

Phytotaxa: In conclusion, Senecio pentanthus and Synotis triligulata are morphologically two distinct species. The former is a fairly widespread species occurring in Bhutan, China (Xizang, Yunnan), northeastern India, Myanmar, Nepal and northern Thailand whereas the latter is restrictedly distributed in Nepal. The following treatment, therefore, is necessary.

Synotis lushaensis (C.E.C.Fisch.) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen looks more close?
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 3:48:42 AM3/11/20
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Giving here the keys from Reinstatement of the Sino-Himalayan species Senecio pentanthus (Asteraceae, Senecioneae) MING TANG, CHEN REN & QIN-ER YANG - Phytotaxa 292 (3): 253–261 (2017):
Key to Synotis pentantha and its similar species
1. Capitula conspicuously radiate ..........2
–   Capitula minutely radiate ..............3
2.   Leaves with prominent, distinct veins beneath ...........Syn. lushaensis
–   Leaves with obscure veins beneath .............Syn. vagans
3.   Corymbs dense, glomeruliform, 2–4 cm long ........4
–   Corymbs more lax, spreading, 4.5–10 cm long ....5
4.   Leaves coarsely and deeply serrate, auriculate at the base ..............Syn. rhabdos
–   Leaves finely and shallowly serrate, exauriculate ...............Syn. glomerata
5.   Leaves broadly ovate, ovate-lanceolate or elliptic ...............6
–   Leaves narrowly lanceolate or narrowly oblong .................9
6.   Phyllaries 5; disc florets 2 or 3 .........Syn. penantha (Synotis pentantha is widely distributed in Bhutan, China (Xizang, Yunnan), northeastern India, Myanmar, Nepal, and northern Thailand (Fig. 5). It grows in open forests, on forest margins, or among scrub at elevations between 1100–2400 m above sea level)
–   Phyllaries 7–10; disc florets 5–10 ....................7
7.   Capitula 3.5–4 × 1.5 mm; phyllaries 6–8 mm long; marginal florets ligulate, conspicuous .........S. triligulata
–   Capitula 4 × 2.7 mm; phyllaries ca. 4 mm long; marginal florets minute, filiform .........8    
8.   Stems, veins on abaxial surface of leaves and peduncles all densely glandular fulvous-pubescent ...........Syn. saluenensis
–   Stems and leaves glabrous; peduncles pubescent .............Syn. simonsii
9.   Leaves auriculate at the base ...................Syn. auriculata
–   Leaves exauriculate ................Syn. baoshanensis

J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 3:59:34 AM3/11/20
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Here are the keys from Flora of China:
40 (39)Leaves pubescent or thinly tomentose; ray lamina ca. 3.5 mm. 23 S. cappa
+Leaves glabrous; ray lamina ca. 6 mm. 3 S. longipes
    
41 (39)Corymbs dense, glomeruliform, 2-4 cm. 33 S. glomerata
+Corymbs more lax, spreading, 4.5-10 cm (42)
    
42 (41)Capitula ca. 4 × 2.7 mm; phyllaries 8. 36 S. saluenensis
+Capitula 3.5-4 × ca. 1.5 mm; phyllaries 4 or 5 (43)
    
43 (42)Leaves ovate or elliptic, basally not auriculate; ray florets 3 or 4. 34 S. triligulata
+Leaves narrowly elliptic or narrowly oblong-elliptic, basally auriculate; ray florets 2. 35 S. auriculate

So pl. post the high resolution images to check all these aspects.




J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 7:28:52 AM3/11/20
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Sir, I am posting herewith another same Synotis sp. for your n/a
Synotis (=Senecio) sp (1).JPG

J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 7:29:20 AM3/11/20
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Sir, I am posting herewith another same Synotis sp. for your n/a

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Mar 11, 2020, 7:34:51 AM3/11/20
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Sir, I am posting herewith another same Synotis sp. for your n/a

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Synotis (=Senecio) sp (4) resized.JPG

J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 7:38:06 AM3/11/20
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 3:19 PM M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir, I am posting herewith another same Synotis sp. for your n/a

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 1:29 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Synotis (=Senecio) sp (2) resized.JPG

J.M. Garg

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Mar 11, 2020, 8:13:59 AM3/11/20
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I will go for Synotis triligulata

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 12, 2020, 2:54:14 AM3/12/20
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 25, 2022, 7:27:09 AM10/25/22
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Hi, Sawmliana ji,
Pl. post the keys of Synotis species.

Can it be Synotis lushaensis (C.E.C.Fisch.) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen as per POWO specimen ?

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 25, 2022, 8:06:19 AM10/25/22
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Thanks, Sawmliana ji.
So it should be Can it be Synotis lushaensis (C.E.C.Fisch.) C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen, as all flowers are tubular. 

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