Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam

[Karuna Das]

Dear All,

   Attached images are Wild Alocasia sp.(?) growing on hilly area near stream. Please ID for it.

Date : 21.12.2012

Location: Kamrup district, Assam

Family : Araceae

Genus & species : Alocasia Sp. (?)

Habitat: Grows wild on hill near stream

Habit :Herb

Flower : Not seen

Fruits :not seen

 

With regards

Karuna Kanta Das

Guwahati 781012

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[Pudji Widodo]

Dear Karuna Ji,

To me, it is a kind of Colocasia.  Although the middle of the leaves are whitish, I think it is Colocasia esculenta.

Regards,
Pudji Widodo

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Dear Karuna Ji, To me, it is a kind of Colocasia. Although the middle of the leaves are whitish, I think it is Colocasia esculenta. Regards, Pudji Widodo

efi site link:  https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/araceae/colocasia/colocasia-esculenta

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Date: 29 December 2012 14:54
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Dear Dr Karuna,

Almost certainly Colocasia affinis Schott, but as with the  Alocasia would need to see an inflorescence (and of course the fertile portions of the spadix), to be certain.

I have forwarded my reply and will forward your original email to Peter Matthews, the world expert on the genus Colocasia

Best

Peter Boyce

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Dear Dr Karuna Das,

To me, this looks somewhat like Colocasia fallax in its relatively low- and close-clumping growth habit, and the light blush along the main vein on the upper side of the blade. But the blade colour is a lighter green, and the front lobe of the blade is more elongate, than what I have seen previously in Colocasia fallax. We can be certain this is Colocasia sp., but as Peter Boyce, says, we need to see the inflorescence to reach any conclusion about species-level identification. 

I am currently traveling, but when I return to Japan in early January, I can look at some photos another colleague (archaeologist) in Assam sent me last year. He may have photographed the same or a similar plant.

Best regards,

Peter M. (full address below)

On Saturday, December 29, 2012, Peter Boyce wrote:

Dear Dr Karuna,

Almost certainly Colocasia affinis Schott, but as with the  Alocasia would need to see an inflorescence (and of course the fertile portions of the spadix), to be certain.

I have forwarded my reply and will forward your original email to Peter Matthews, the world expert on the genus Colocasia

Best

Peter Boyce

On 29 December 2012 14:23, jmgarg1 <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Dear Karuna Ji, To me, it is a kind of Colocasia. Although the middle of the leaves are whitish, I think it is Colocasia esculenta. Regards, Pudji Widodo

efi site link:  colocasia esculenta | efloraofindia

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Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

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Date: 30 December 2012 17:47
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Dear Dr. P.Matthews Sir
Thank You very much Sir for ID. The particular species is not in flowering stage now. When flowering begin I will take and send the images of the spadix to you.
With regards
karuna Kanta das
Guwahati

On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 09:01:14 +0530 wrote

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Date: 30 December 2012 01:05
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To: Peter Boyce

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Dear Dr Karuna Das,
To me, this looks somewhat like Colocasia fallax in its relatively low- and close-clumping growth habit, and the light blush along the main vein on the upper side of the blade. But the blade colour is a lighter green, and the front lobe of the blade is more elongate, than what I have seen previously in Colocasia fallax. We can be certain this is Colocasia sp., but as Peter Boyce, says, we need to see the inflorescence to reach any conclusion about species-level identification. 


I am currently traveling, but when I return to Japan in early January, I can look at some photos another colleague (archaeologist) in Assam sent me last year. He may have photographed the same or a similar plant.


Best regards,
Peter M. (full address below)

On Saturday, December 29, 2012, Peter Boyce wrote:


Dear Dr Karuna,
Almost certainly Colocasia affinis Schott, but as with the  Alocasia would need to see an inflorescence (and of course the fertile portions of the spadix), to be certain.



I have forwarded my reply and will forward your original email to Peter Matthews, the world expert on the genus Colocasia
Best
Peter Boyce

On 29 December 2012 14:23, jmgarg1 wrote:





Forwarding again for
Id confirmation or
otherwise please.

Some earlier
relevant feedback:




 Dear Karuna Ji,
To me, it is a kind of Colocasia. Although the middle of the leaves are whitish, I think it is Colocasia esculenta.




Regards,
Pudji Widodo









 efi site link:



 colocasia esculenta | efloraofindia



 






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From: Karuna Das

Date: 23 December 2012 14:59
Subject: [efloraofindia:141183] Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam
To: indiantreepix

Cc: kd_dkc

Dear All,


   Attached images are Wild Alocasia sp.(?) growing on hilly area near stream. Please ID for it.




Date : 21.12.2012
Location: Kamrup district, Assam
Family : Araceae
Genus & species : Alocasia Sp. (?)




Habitat: Grows wild on hill near stream
Habit :Herb
Flower : Not seen
Fruits :not seen
 

With regards
Karuna Kanta Das
Guwahati 781012

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For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 2015 members & 1,39,500 messages on 30/11/12) or Efloraofindia website: efloraofindia (with a species database of more than 7500 species).




Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 




--
Dr Peter J. Matthews
Field Sciences Laboratory &
Department of Social Research
National Museum of Ethnology, Senri Expo Park, Suita City, Osaka 565-8511, Japan.



Tel. +81-6-6878-8344 (office).
Tel. +81-6-6876-2151 (exchange, J. only)
Fax. +81-6-6878-7503 (office)

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With regards,

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Colocasia species- Kamrup district, Assam

Group discussion at

Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Colocasia species- Kamrup district, Assam

Group discussion at

Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam (google.com)

[J.M. Garg]

Maybe Colocasia affinis as per discussions and details in the following threads: 
Alocasia sp.(Araceae) for ID(A.fornicata?) 

MS, April,2021/01 Colocasia sp. for id.

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From: Karuna Das <kd_...@rediffmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 at 15:00
Subject: [efloraofindia:141183] Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Cc: kd_dkc <kd_...@rediffmail.com>

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[Peter J MATTHEWS]

Dear all,

That looks very much like Colocasia fallax, which is common in Meghalaya. It seems to show considerable variation in the blush on the blade and the presence or absence of dark coloured patches on the blades (even within one population), though fully green blades seem to be the most common.

P.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2021 6:34 PM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: Karuna Das; M Sawmliana; Aarti S. Khale
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:141183] Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam

Maybe Colocasia affinis as per discussions and details in the following threads:

Alocasia sp.(Araceae) for ID(A.fornicata?)<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/dfgAON2VjAo>
MS, April,2021/01 Colocasia sp. for id.<https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/jWKcXQ8PvRg>

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 at 15:00
Subject: [efloraofindia:141183] Wild Alocasia sp. 1 (?) from Kamrup district, Assam
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Cc: kd_dkc <kd_...@rediffmail.com<mailto:kd_...@rediffmail.com>>


Dear All,
Attached images are Wild Alocasia sp.(?) growing on hilly area near stream. Please ID for it.
Date : 21.12.2012
Location: Kamrup district, Assam
Family : Araceae
Genus & species : Alocasia Sp. (?)
Habitat: Grows wild on hill near stream
Habit :Herb
Flower : Not seen
Fruits :not seen

With regards
Karuna Kanta Das
Guwahati 781012

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