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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 7, 2016, 4:33:16 AM7/7/16
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Dear Mr. Garg,

Enclosing some pictures for identification.
Location : Kalingpong
Altitude:  5550 ft
Date: 6 July 2016

Pictures were shot by a friend and sent for ID ! After extensive search I think it should be Didymocarpus peducellata.

Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 7, 2016, 5:00:00 AM7/7/16
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Wonderful images, Saroj ji.
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J.M. Garg

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Jul 10, 2016, 7:16:49 AM7/10/16
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Thanks, Saroj ji. But it does not match with images at Didymocarpus pedicellatus
It may be some other species. Was it cultivated or wild ?

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 10, 2016, 8:26:09 AM7/10/16
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This is wild !

J.M. Garg

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 14, 2016, 4:35:23 AM7/14/16
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Thanks, Saroj ji. But it does not match with images at Didymocarpus pedicellatus
It may be some other species. Was it cultivated or wild ? - from me

This is wild !- from Saroj ji 

Didymocarpus species so far in efi 



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Date: 7 July 2016 at 14:03
Subject: SK30JUL7-2016:ID
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:41:57 AM7/14/16
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Dear Mr. Garg,

As verified by Mr. Anton Weber on other sample this is definitely D. primulifolius D.Don. But only difference I have  noticed is the specimen given in FoI which looks very much different.
Can we get the final verification from Mr. Weber?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 14, 2016, 7:28:17 AM7/14/16
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Thanks, Saroj ji.
May I request you to pl. post the sample as verified by Mr. Anton Weber.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 14, 2016, 9:05:06 AM7/14/16
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Dear Mr. Garg,

It is in your reply as enclosed below.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

JM Garg 
Inline image 1
7/24/15

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

IMG_9445, 9444, 9449 are of Gesneriaceae family. Some species in Didymocarpus genus.
.................

DSRawat Pantnagar 

 


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From: Subhasis Panda <bgc....@gmail.com>
Date: 16 July 2015 at 09:35
Subject: Need id assistance
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear all
I need id assistance for following plant images collected from Darjeeling
Locality: Pankabari Ridge
alt. 3000 ft
Date: 29.07.2014
Status: common in 2 places

Regards
S. Panda
Darjeeling



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7/24/15
Fwd: Fwd: Need id assistance SP 1 160715
Thanks a lot, Dr. Weber.

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From: Anton Weber 
Date: 24 July 2015 at 15:06
Subject: Re: Fwd: Need id assistance SP 1 160715
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Subhasis <bgc....@gmail.com>, "D.S Rawat" <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>


This is clearly a species of Didymocarpus (Gesneriaceae). I suppose it is
D. primulifolius D.Don (which is the type species of Didymocarpus,
occurring in Nepal, NE India and S China), but confirmation is impossible
without having authentic materials at hands. Very nice photos!!!
A. Weber


On Fr, 24.07.2015, 10:28, J.M. Garg wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
>     IMG_9445, 9444, 9449 are of Gesneriaceae family. Some species in
> *Didymocarpus* genus.

> .................
>
> DSRawat Pantnagar
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Subhasis Panda <bgc....@gmail.com>
> Date: 16 July 2015 at 09:35
> Subject: Need id assistance
> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" <
jmg...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear all
> I need id assistance for following plant images collected from Darjeeling
> Locality: Pankabari Ridge
> alt. 3000 ft
> Date: 29.07.2014
> Status: common in 2 places
>
> Regards
> S. Panda
> Darjeeling
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

> The whole world uses my Image Resource
> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants
> etc.
> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the

> world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or
> Efloraofindia
> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species

> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of

> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia

>
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>





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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
The whole world uses
 my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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Subhasis Panda 
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7/24/15
Re: Fwd: Need id assistance SP 1 160715
Thanks a lot to Dr. Weber for his excellency in the process of Didymocarpus sp. identification. Dr. Weber is correct in respect to authenticity based on direct material at hand.

I am also grateful to J. M. Gargji for his tireless effort to identify any unknown taxon, really rare personality in this era!

reagrds
Dr. S. Panda
Darjeeling Govt. College
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J.M. Garg

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Jul 15, 2016, 12:45:11 AM7/15/16
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Thanks, Saroj ji,
Yeah, it appears close to images of Didymocarpus primulifolius in Fwd: Need id assistance SP 1 160715

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 15, 2016, 2:38:04 AM7/15/16
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Dear Mr. Garg ,

Do we need further verification  from Mr. Weber?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 15, 2016, 3:04:19 AM7/15/16
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I think it is not required now.

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 15, 2016, 3:15:32 AM7/15/16
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Thank you !

Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 23, 2021, 7:05:32 AM1/23/21
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Didymocarpus pedicellatus R.Br.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 29, 2021, 11:22:51 AM1/29/21
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Thanks, Saroj ji.
Yes, it appears more closer to Didymocarpus pedicellatus R.Br. as per GBIF specimens rather than Didymocarpus primulifolius as per GBIF specimens and FoC illustration

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Bhaskar Adhikari

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Feb 2, 2021, 5:46:17 AM2/2/21
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I don’t think it is D. pedicellatus, more closer to Didymocarpus andersonii C. B. Clarke

Regards

Bhas


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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 2, 2021, 7:18:16 AM2/2/21
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That means enclosed document is wrong!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 6, 2021, 8:28:52 AM2/6/21
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Thanks, Bhaskar ji.
Is there a key to differentiate the two as two appear quite close?
Appears close as per GBIF specimens- specimen 1 and specimen 2
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Bhaskar Adhikari

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Feb 18, 2021, 9:48:17 AM2/18/21
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Dear Garg ji

It’s easy to differentiate D. pedicellatus and D. andersonii: if you look at the corolla shape, its funnel-form (gradually wider opening) in D.pedicellatus but salver-form (slender tube, narrow opening, with abruptly widening lobes) in D. andersonii. In D. pedicellatus petioles are nearly glabrous while in D. andersonii its densely pubescent.

J.M. Garg

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Feb 18, 2021, 9:55:02 AM2/18/21
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Thanks a lot, Bhaskar ji

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 18, 2021, 10:28:23 AM7/18/21
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I guess this is Didymocarpus andersonii C.B.Clarke as suggested by Dr. Adhikari ! But still listed as 
Didymocarpus primulifolius in our site ! http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:380318-1
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 27, 2021, 5:29:32 AM7/27/21
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Hi, Saroj ji,
Pl. do not refer to the old site anymore, as there have been thousands of changes since Dec.'2020 as you are well aware of.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 27, 2021, 7:34:16 AM7/27/21
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Ok, Mr. Garg. I think Gurucharan sir also reposting for ID based on old site
which is consuming a lot of time and duplication of work.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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