unknown plant from central Nepal; ID reques

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Bep van Pelt

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Dec 2, 2019, 10:52:19 AM12/2/19
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Date: 18/10/2019
Juphal; central nepal 2500m
next to footpath; non cultivated
Plant
Height; ca 25 cm
Leaves  hairy
Flower: typical campanula
Suggestion: Campanula pallida
Altitude: ca 2900m


Flowering period: october


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W. van Pelt
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 15, 2019, 8:20:08 AM12/15/19
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Does not match with any species so far in efi site at Campanula
I think it is close to Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex DC. as per Flora of Pakistan FoP illustration GBIF  Checklist of Nepal
I have also checked keys in Flora of Bhutan and other species listed in Checklist of Nepal

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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 15, 2019, 12:22:53 PM12/15/19
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I guess you are right Mr. Garg 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Dec 16, 2019, 5:43:46 AM12/16/19
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Thanks, Saroj ji 

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 16, 2019, 8:39:53 AM12/16/19
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Thanks, Bep ji. Possibly we have to have a relook at our images on the given page. 
Hi, Rawat ji, 
May I request you to pl. have a relook at your images of this plant in efi site. 

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On Mon 16 Dec, 2019, 6:02 PM Bep van Pelt, <bep.en....@gmail.com> wrote:
I looked at the site
but my plant was about 25 cm and not growing in crevices of the rocks.
So I doubt if its OK
Elizabeth

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Thanks, Saroj ji 

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On Sun 15 Dec, 2019, 10:52 PM Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess you are right Mr. Garg 
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 7:04 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does not match with any species so far in efi site at Campanula
I think it is close to Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex DC. as per Flora of Pakistan FoP illustration GBIF  Checklist of Nepal
I have also checked keys in Flora of Bhutan and other species listed in Checklist of Nepal

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 21:22, Bep van Pelt <bep.en....@gmail.com> wrote:
Date: 18/10/2019
Juphal; central nepal 2500m
next to footpath; non cultivated
Plant
Height; ca 25 cm
Leaves  hairy
Flower: typical campanula
Suggestion: Campanula pallida
Altitude: ca 2900m


Flowering period: october<harige campanula-DSC_5126.jpg><harige campanula-DSC_5125.jpg>


Yours faithfully


E. van Pelt- Verkuil
W. van Pelt
Hazewinkelstraat 14
2313EW Leiden
The Netherlands




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J.M. Garg

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Dec 16, 2019, 10:30:50 PM12/16/19
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Thanks, Rawat ji 


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On Mon 16 Dec, 2019, 8:38 PM D.S Rawat, <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
The plant in question is not C. argyrotricha in my opinion. It is not alpine plant and  the elevation mentioned (2500m) do not match. Plant seems too robust and leaves too thick to be C. argyrotricha. 
It may be a species not represented in eFI; like C. wattiana. 
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 16, 2019, 10:32:34 PM12/16/19
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Hi, Rawat ji, 
May I request you to pl have a look at per Flora of Pakistan FoP illustration GBIF  Checklist of Nepal


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J.M. Garg

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Dec 26, 2019, 2:09:33 AM12/26/19
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Based on FoP illustration & GBIF, I am sure that posted plant is C. argyrotricha   

J.M. Garg

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Jan 4, 2020, 7:06:26 AM1/4/20
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Based on discussions at Campanula argyrothicha from Uttarakhand: Sep. 2014_DSR_6, it may not be Campanula argyrotricha.
I also does not seem to match with Campanula wattiana as per Flowers of India and GBIF

J.M. Garg

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A new species?
Elizabeth

Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 22, 2021, 11:24:31 AM7/22/21
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Forwarding for ID
Group discussion at

Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 22, 2021, 11:25:57 AM7/22/21
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Forwarding for ID
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J.M. Garg

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Jul 31, 2021, 4:54:22 AM7/31/21
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 31, 2021, 11:30:11 AM7/31/21
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Isn't ID finalised ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 31, 2021, 12:11:10 PM7/31/21
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Not yet.

J.M. Garg

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Oct 20, 2021, 2:17:04 AM10/20/21
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I will finally go with Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu as per images and details herein.
Bep ji's plant is only slight more woolly from images of Saroj ji at SK 3037 12 October 2021, other characters perfectly match.

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Daar mr Garg, 
Thanks for the final decision.
Elizabeth


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 29, 2022, 4:07:20 AM7/29/22
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Taking it as Campanula pallida var. tibetica, as per discussions at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2014/07/17/campanula-pallida-var-tibetica/

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Bep van Pelt

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Jul 29, 2022, 7:26:18 AM7/29/22
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Thanks a lot!
At the end a name!

Elizabeth 

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Taking it as Campanula pallida var. tibetica, as per discussions at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2014/07/17/campanula-pallida-var-tibetica/


On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 11:43, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will finally go with Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu as per images and details herein.
Bep ji's plant is only slight more woolly from images of Saroj ji at SK 3037 12 October 2021, other characters perfectly match.

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Date: 18/10/2019
Juphal; central nepal 2500m
next to footpath; non cultivated
Plant
Height; ca 25 cm
Leaves  hairy
Flower: typical campanula
Suggestion: Campanula pallida
Altitude: ca 2900m


Flowering period: october<harige campanula-DSC_5126.jpg><harige campanula-DSC_5125.jpg>


Yours faithfully


E. van Pelt- Verkuil
W. van Pelt
Hazewinkelstraat 14
2313EW Leiden
The Netherlands




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