Tree Id request!

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lila

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Apr 5, 2020, 6:51:24 AM4/5/20
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Dear sir/Madam

Could you please help me identify this tree species. Its a medium-sized tree. 
 Photographed on 20.03.2020 Near Nepal India Border in eastern Nepal at 100m asl. 

Thank you for kind cooperation.

Sincerely,
Lila

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 5, 2020, 10:47:04 PM4/5/20
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Hi, Lila ji.
Pl. post detailed images showing all aspects including habit.
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lila

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Apr 6, 2020, 7:50:42 PM4/6/20
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  Dear Garg sir,

Thanks for the response. I have only this photo where tree bark can be seen. 
You may have a look into it. 
Sincerely,
Lila
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 6, 2020, 10:37:21 PM4/6/20
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Thanks a lot, Lila ji.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 6, 2020, 10:38:21 PM4/6/20
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Thanks a lot, Lila ji.

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From: lila <lilanat...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 05:17
Subject: Re: Tree Id request!
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Dear Garg sir,

Thanks for the response. I have only this photo where tree bark can be seen. 
You may have a look into it. 

Sincerely,
Lila


On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:31 AM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Apr 6, 2020, 11:02:15 PM4/6/20
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Wild guess seems to Casearia sp, check once with local floras which one mentioned there Lila Ji,
matched characters are Alternate leaves, inflorescence axillary clusters with small peduncles and fruits with lobes or slight pyrens,
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lila

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Apr 6, 2020, 11:40:35 PM4/6/20
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Thank you Paradesi ji

Yes it could be member of Caesaria. . I will check it and update. 

Sincerely,
Lila

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 7, 2020, 3:12:13 AM4/7/20
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Does not shape of drupe look different?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 7, 2020, 7:09:17 AM4/7/20
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Please compare with Drypetes subsessilis of Putranjivaceae.

lila

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Apr 7, 2020, 5:27:19 PM4/7/20
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Dear Chakrabarty Sir,

Thank you very much for your kind cooperation. Your suggestion is very helpful. It resembles more with D. assamica. 
I think we are pretty close. 


@ Paradesi ji: I think its more close to Drypetes assamica. 

Sincerely,
Lila



Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 7, 2020, 6:00:45 PM4/7/20
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There are three closely related species: D. assamica, D. bhattacharyae and D. subsessilis. Here, your fruits are subsessile which suggests D. subsessilis. For confirmation, you should have the male flowers. The male flowers in D. subsessilis are up to 5 mm in diameter with 3-4 stamens while in D. assamica, the male flowers are about 10 mm in diameter with 8-12 stamens. 
In case you wish to treat them as conspecific, then the name D. subsessilis will have to be adopted for the combined species.

lila

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Apr 7, 2020, 6:03:51 PM4/7/20
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Dear Chakrabarty sir,

Thanks for the detail information about the species. I will wait for flowers and update you about the flower characters. 

Have a great day!

Sincerely,
Lila 


Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Apr 7, 2020, 9:52:27 PM4/7/20
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 Yes, Lila Ji Tapas sir is correct it's Drypetes only, check properly for sp., Thank you so much Tapas sir for enlightening from the post,
With regards.

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 8, 2020, 4:46:48 AM4/8/20
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Is Drypetes  listed in Nepal?Looks like a new sp. for Nepal !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 8, 2020, 6:16:40 AM4/8/20
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Saroj ji,
You are right. No Drypetes has been recorded so far for Nepal but two species are there in Bhutan (assamica and subsessilis).

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 8, 2020, 6:18:04 AM4/8/20
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Thank you Tapas da for information.
Saroj Kasaju
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Apr 16, 2020, 3:19:28 AM4/16/20
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Thanks a lot, Tapas ji and Lila ji, for nailing this id.
On examination of specimens in GBIF, I feel it is Drypetes assamica and not Drypetes subsessilis as per specimens herein and as per the following specimens:

Also matches with Tapas ji images at Drypetes assamica
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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 16, 2020, 4:07:55 AM4/16/20
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Lila Ji !

Look for flower in Jan- May !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

lila

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Apr 16, 2020, 4:32:01 AM4/16/20
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Dear Garg Sir and Tapas sir,

Thank you very much for your support to nail it down. 
yes, it is 
Hope I will be able to collect flowers soon and update you!

Sincerely,
Lila

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