Flora of Nepal- Online accounts

[J.M. Garg]

Flora of Nepal- Online accounts is now available online and can be pursued through search or family wise.
I think Home page further offers pdf version along with Gallary of images, herbarium specimens etc. 

We have to use it extensively as till now we have to rely on Flora of China as BSI flora online version is not working since long. 
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J.M.Garg

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The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

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[J.M. Garg]

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Thank you Mr. Garg.

I a referring time and again.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

What I find is that only some 26 odd families have detailed accounts with keys (Flora of Nepal- Online accounts) etc. while some others are in the process.

However, images and herbarium specimens, may be available beyond these families also in Image gallary at Home page

On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:57, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Mr. Garg.

I a referring time and again.

Saroj Kasaju

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:21 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Ushadi Micromini]

wonderful start

do we now also have a Nepal page(?)

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[Pankaj Kumar]

Please remember that the Flora of Nepal is run by professional botanists in collaboration of Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh and Japan. I really appreciate their efforts. This is something similar which BSI should have done for India.

I do wish that someday we convert our efloraofindia into something similar.

Best regards

Pankaj

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pankaj ji. A great thought.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Indeed Pankaj. Dr. Bhaskar Adhikari is also involved in this [roject !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Ushadi Micromini]

Pankaj 

you mean convert our pages to  pdf?

but why?

Gargji is constantly revising and correcting the pages as he gets new cases, new information and he gets to that page.

pdf wont allow that, would it?

you are right about the fact that this website for Nepal flora is a collaboration.

its a serious collaboration 

and extensive scientifically precise documentation and classification

on their website there is a button for image gallery

in addition to superb  photographs, in more than 2500 pages 

there are 6 or 8 pages that show people involved working, collecting etc 

and the process...

at url   :    http://www.floraofnepal.org/imagegallery#2  

herbarium specimen being examined under dissecting  microscope for help in precise classification.

this is in contrast to what we do,  we donot have herbarium, nor a lab.... only member submitted photographs

in some cases we do get good quality photographs and can do classification and identification.

but often when pictures are not upto par, some of us say so,

wanting to leave things as either unided, dubia as Gurcharanji calls it,

or just give it family  or genus level diagnosis, 

yet some of our more courageous members ( i am being charitable here)

go ahead and give a diagnosis down to species level, sometimes even cultivar level...  or subspecies level...

thats frustrating ... at scientific level.

I think,  for us to get to be similar to such sites, we need to be stricter in our enthusisam to classify and pass judgements down to species level in most of our such incomplete cases.  

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Googling for "use of dissecting scope in study of herbarium specimen"

got me 165,000 pages and lots of images 

one of which is this

For the taxonomic revision of Atocion and Viscaria , flowers from herbarium specimens were boiled, dissected, and the character states observed under the stereomicroscope. Here the flower of Viscaria alpina , with removed calyx. Quantita- tive floral characters were measured using a digital image analysis system. The measures are indicated here as originally displayed (photo B. Frajman, July 2007). 

POINT of this is that that classification and naming of species is a serious and time consuming business.  

cant always be done on point and shoot or cell phone camera pictures.

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[Pankaj Kumar]

No I am not talking about changing pdfs. But the matter on these pdf on the Nepal flora is more detailed (yet incomplete) than ours.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

many of those pdfs did not load when i was looking at them.

their endeavor and our endeavor are two different things.

only posterity will say which will serve general community better.

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