IBG today : Arecaceae : unknown11

[surajit koley]

This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.

[surajit koley]

It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.?

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[J.M. Garg]

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It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.? Thanks n regards

Surajit

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

It is not glaucous but silvery - Arenga engleri Becc.? Thanks n regards                                          Surajit

At Bot. Gardens, Kolkata.

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This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Dr. John.

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Without details of inflorescences/fruits this is not straightforward. If as you say cult in Kolkata then it could be any one of several Arenga spp

John

[surajit koley]

Thank you very much Sir. This palm is growing in the Calcutta Botanical Garden, presently known as Acharya Jagadish Chandra Bose Indian Botanic Garden.

Regards

Surajit

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM, John Dransfield <J.Dran...@kew.org> wrote:

Without details of inflorescences/fruits this is not straightforward. If as you say cult in Kolkata then it could be any one of several Arenga spp

John

 

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[surajit koley]

Thank you very much Garg Sir.

Regards

[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Arenga engleri Becc. ??  Since this sp. is planted there.

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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Thanks, Saroj ji.

But looks different from closeup details at 

http://idtools.org/id/palms/palmid/factsheet.php?name=arenga+engleri

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This has glaucous abaxial. The last pic is of an unknown small snail, I think.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

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Distributed as Arenga species- Bot. Garden, Kolkata

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Distributed as Arenga species- Bot. Garden, Kolkata

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

I accept it as Arenga sp. only, as suggested by Dr. Dransfield.

However, the garden does have Arenga engleri Becc. - https://bsi.gov.in/garden-page/en?rcu=140,38

Thank you.

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Surajit Koley

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Surajit ji.

Does it matches ?

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

BSI developed a mobile app that can be downloaded from the playstore.

Arenga species listed in that app are -

1. A. wightii - 
2. A. tremula
3. A. australasica
4. A. otusifolia
5. A. pinnata
6. A. undulatifolia

Surprisingly, Arenga engleri doesn't show up in that app search. One reason might be that this particular species is housed inside the "palm house".

I visited the site - palmpedia.net, to find if I could id this species out of those above listed six spp.

I think Arenga wightii comes closer to my species, but base of the pinnae looks different. And of-course the species also features in the group site.

Rather, this leaf image, at https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Finaturalist-open-data.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fphotos%2F108868319%2Foriginal.jpeg%3F1609480801

at

GBIF page - https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2733994

looks similar to

my photo no. P1110619.jpg 

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley