Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 27, 2019, 12:59:17 PM9/27/19
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Dear Members
 
Location: Gyaneswor, Kathmandu
Date: 14 September  2019
Elevation: 1300 m.
Habitat : Wild

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Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 27, 2019, 1:00:32 PM9/27/19
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ushadi

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Sep 27, 2019, 1:13:13 PM9/27/19
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wonderful

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Saroj Kasaju

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 27, 2019, 4:00:48 PM9/27/19
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Is it an accepted name? Saroj JI, 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 28, 2019, 12:06:14 AM9/28/19
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 28, 2019, 10:09:52 AM9/28/19
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Thank you, Saroj Ji,
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 28, 2019, 10:56:10 AM9/28/19
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My pleasure Paradesi ji!

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Saroj  Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2019, 3:40:19 AM10/5/19
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Thanks, Saroj ji.
But what surprised me is that Catalogue of Life gives distribution of Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. (syn: Lindernia nummularifolia (D. Don) Wettst.) as Senegal, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Gabon, Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia, D.R. Congo (Zaire), Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Angola, Zambia, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Madagascar, Society Isl. (I) (Tahiti (I)), Fiji (I).
That sent me on the hunt for correct id of our plant.  

Pl. see Lindernia nummulariifolia (D.Don) Wettst., Nat. Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891. (syn: Vandellia nummulariifolia D. Don, Prodr. Fl. Nepal. 86. 1825; Lindernia sessiliflora (Bentham) Wettstein; Vandellia chinensis T. Yamazaki; V. sessiliflora Bentham.) as per Flora of China.

Checklist of Nepal only gives Lindernia nummularifolia (D. Don) Wettst. without any synonyms and distribution as 900-2900 m; Himalaya (Kashmir to Sikkim), India, Ceylon, Burma, W. & C. China.

Taxonomic Revision of Lindernia All. (Scrophulariaceae sensu lato) In Taiwan (2012) gives only Lindernia nummulariifolia (D.Don) Wettst., Nat. Pflanzenfam. 4(3b): 80 1891. (syn: Vandellia nummulariifolia D. Don) with distribution as India, Nepal, Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, W. and C. China, Madagascar, Taiwan in wet meadows in south (Pingtung County)

What about Lindernia sessiliflora (Bentham) Wettstein given in Flora of China as it is not mentioned in Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D. Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. in Catalogue of Life. Catalogue of life gives this as a syn. of Craterostigma sessiliflorum (Benth.) Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang with distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], Nepal, Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore (I), Java, India, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, Rawalpindi), Jammu & Kashmir (Poonch).
 
Thus, plant in our area may be Craterostigma sessiliflorum (Benth.) Y. S. Liang & J. C. Wang with distribution as China (Gansu, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hubei, Hunan, Jiangxi, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, Zhejiang), Tibet, Myanmar [Burma], Nepal, Thailand, Vietnam, peninsular Malaysia (Melaka), Singapore (I), Java, India, Darjeeling, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Pakistan (Murree, Rawalpindi), Jammu & Kashmir (Poonch).
This may be due to some recent taxonomic revisions etc. On searching, I found  New combinations in Craterostigma and Torenia (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species Phytotaxa Vol 247, No 2 (2016) by YI-SHUO LIANG, JENN-CHE WANG (Abstract- Traditionally, Lindernia s.l. Allioni (1766: 178) was the largest genus within Linderniaceae, with about 100 species, including members of Bonnaya Link & Otto (1820: 25), Ilysanthes Rafinesque (1820: 13), and Vandellia Linnaeus (1767: 384) (Pennell 1935, Rahmanzadeh et al. 2005). This concept (Pennell 1935) was adopted by subsequent taxonomists (e.g., Philcox 1968, Tsoong & Ku 1979, Yamazaki 1981, Fischer 1992, Lewis 2000, Liang et al. 2012) until Fischer et al. (2013), based on molecular and morphological evidence, proposed a more restrict circumscription of Lindernia s.str., separated from Bonnaya, Vandellia, Craterostigma Hochstetter (1841: 668), Crepidorhopalon Fischer (1989: 443), Torenia Linnaeus (1753: 619), and the new genus Linderniella Fischer et al. (2013: 227)). But one has to log in to see the details.



On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 09:36, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:


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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 5, 2019, 5:09:17 AM10/5/19
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I guess you are right Mr. Garg but could not get sufficient images for comparison.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Tabish

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Sep 26, 2024, 6:09:14 AM9/26/24
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I have attached the key to the species provided by the paper 
Phytotaxa 247 (2): 148–150 (2016), "New combinations in Craterostigma and Torenia (Linderniaceae) from Asia with key to allied species."
The bottom-line of the paper is, 
"Craterostigma sessiliflorum differs from C. nummulariifolium by its creeping habit (vs. erect), sessile flowers (vs. sessile to pedunculate), and pale brown corolla dorsal lip (vs. purplish)"
In this light, Saroj's plant (and all similar plants posted on eFI) belong to Craterostigma nummulariifolium.
Two observations of what should be Craterostigma sessiliflorum, both from Kerala, are here (although wrongly labeled presently):
  Tabish
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2024, 6:20:07 AM9/26/24
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Thank you Tabish for your clarification. It seems all images on the net are random.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2024, 6:33:14 AM9/26/24
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Dear Tabish Ji,

That means Nepal does not have Craterostigma sessiliflorum (Benth.) Y.S.Liang & J.C.Wang though 
some of the databases showing its distribution in Nepal maybe because of the identification
confusion. Also the latest book by KK shrestha et all also do not have this sp. for Nepal.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Tabish

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Sep 26, 2024, 6:52:35 AM9/26/24
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The distribution given at various sites should not be taken at face value because a distribution of a locality may get added because it was treated as a synonym of another species. Even when the naming is fixed, the distribution does not get automatically fixed.
The plant with purple upper-lip flowers is found in the Himalayas and also Maharashtra, as the posts on eFI show. However no one has yet posted a plant with brown upper-lip flowers on eFI. So my guess is that it might be confined to Southern Western Ghats and probably China and SE Asia.
The Keralaplants page for Lindernia sessiliflora also mentions a brown upper lip.
   Tabish
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2024, 6:54:41 AM9/26/24
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I have not seen that sp. yet.

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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 6, 2024, 2:34:54 AM10/6/24
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POWO and CoL does not give distribution of Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb.Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. outside Africa. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 6, 2024, 2:57:52 AM10/6/24
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Actually, POWO is also not 100 % correct, neither are any of the databases. I have seen many discrepancies 
with POWO for many sps. having distribution in Nepal which are not included in the POWO and some sps. 
which are not having distribution in Nepal showing distribution for Nepal.
Likewise, GBIF also has many discrepancies. Images of many sps. are wrongly  posted with different ID pages
and I have informed them for corrections. But they replied that it is the responsibility of the person / institution who 
has uploaded  the images.

By the way, Nepal has only one Craterostigma nummulariifolium (D.Don) Eb. Fisch., Schäferh. & Kai Müll. , and not the
Craterostigma sessiliflorum (Benth.) Y.S.Liang & J.C.Wang .(Sofar)
Enclosed Screen shots from the WP and Book by KK shrestha et all.


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 6, 2024, 3:03:54 AM10/6/24
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POWO has taken a decision in this regard after following many publications as given the references herein, which are not accessible to us. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 6, 2024, 3:12:22 AM10/6/24
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I cannot say further as I am not an expert. However, this species is included in efloranepal, latest book from Nepal,
Government documents. 

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Saroj Kasaju

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