Request for ID - 261010RA1

[Rashida Atthar]

Request ID of this small tree seen flowering at Matheran, Mah. last weekend. Thankyou. Would be nice to get the ID of the Snake Id too, was told it was poisonous!

 

regards,

Rashida.

[Neil Soares]

Hi Rashida,  The snake is a Bamboo Pit Viper [Trimeresurus gramineus]. It venom is toxic but not potentially lethal for humans.                         Regards,                           Neil. --- On Tue, 10/26/10, Rashida Atthar <atthar....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Pankaj Kumar]

Loved the Viper pics. Neil sir, I think we should altogether discourage people by saying that yes this is poisonous and people should stay away from it thought it is not so deadly poisonous.

But another fact is, many people die of shock than of venom!!!

I remember one of my marathi friend (not in eflora) saw this beautiful snake, caught it and brought it back to home in his backpack TO TAKE PICTURES..... And then he called me up to ask that he found a beautiful snake and I was shocked to see the pictures. I could only shout at him on phone....

In another incident, one of our members, Navendu Page, one Saw Scale Viper jumped on him at Dehradun. 

Vipers usually attacked very badly so we should avoid it altogether. 

This concern not only comes as a being part of this group but also from being part of Wildlife Institute of India.

Regards

Pankaj

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[Neil Soares]

Hi Dr.Pankaj,    Thanks for your comments and your stated concerns. I think you have overlooked the fact that I am a doctor. This being a scientific forum, have only stated the obvious. By no stretch of imagination can my observations be construed as encouraging people to handle mildly venomous or even any snake for that matter.                                    Regards,                                      Dr. Neil Soares.                                        M.D. [Bom]., D.V.D. --- On Tue, 10/26/10, Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Pankaj Kumar]

:) I again forgot that you are a doctor, sorry for that.

My intention of saying this was due to following line of yours, "It

venom is toxic but not potentially lethal for humans".

I meant, its better to tell people to stay away from poisonous snakes
rather than saying its not potentially lethal.

No odd sense was meant, but accept my apologies if I hurt you.
Regards
Pankaj

[Neil Soares]

Hi Rashida,    This could be a Litsea species possibly Litsea deccanensis.

Regards,                         Neil. --- On Tue, 10/26/10, Rashida Atthar <atthar....@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rashida Atthar <atthar....@gmail.com> Subject: [efloraofindia:51952] Request for ID - 261010RA1 To: indian...@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 8:25 PM

[Rashida Atthar]

Thanks for the Info.and ID  Dr. Neil. 

regards,

Rashida.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Neil Soares <drneil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Rashida Atthar]

Thanks a lot for the lead Neil. Seems to match. But  a doubt due to the description as per Dr. Almeida's flora wherein in the species L. deccanensis key is mentioned  as "Perianth segments inconspicuous or absent." I am not sure, but perianth segment are seen here right?  

regards,

Rashida.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Neil ji..................................................... This could be a Litsea species possibly Litsea deccanensis.

Rashida ji................................................Thanks a lot for the lead Neil. Seems to match. But  a doubt due to the description as per Dr. Almeida's flora wherein in the species L. deccanensis key is mentioned  as "Perianth segments inconspicuous or absent." I am not sure, but perianth segment are seen here right? 

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From: Rashida Atthar <atthar....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:55 AM
Subject: [efloraofindia:51952] Request for ID - 261010RA1
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[C KUNHIKANNAN]

the plant is either Croton or Mallotus sp. opposite leaves are
unequal, a feature of these genera.
Kunhikannan

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Coimbatore-641002, Tamilnadu.

[Pankaj Kumar]

Doesnt look like Euphorbiaceae to me at all.
Pankaj

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[C KUNHIKANNAN]

what ever flowers visible are male flowers. look like Croton flower.
it is euphorbiaceae
kunhikannan

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM, C KUNHIKANNAN <kunhi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

I think Pankaj ji is right. Seems to be some member of Tiliaceae.

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[Rashida Atthar]

Thank you Dr. Kunhikannan ji. It should be most probably a Croton species. In the floras I checked, the matching Mallotus sp. is mentioned as having  50 or more stamens. This plant has around 15 to 20 stamens.  

regards,

Rashida, 

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 PM, C KUNHIKANNAN <kunhi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Neil ji..................................................... This could be a Litsea species possibly Litsea deccanensis.

Rashida ji................................................Thanks a lot for the lead Neil. Seems to match. But  a doubt due to the description as per Dr. Almeida's flora wherein in the species L. deccanensis key is mentioned  as "Perianth segments inconspicuous or absent." I am not sure, but perianth segment are seen here right? 

Kunhikannan.......................................the plant is either Croton or Mallotus sp.  opposite leaves are unequal, a feature of these genera.

Pankaj ji..............................................Doesnt look like Euphorbiaceae to me at all.

Rashida ji............................................

Thank you Dr. Kunhikannan ji. It should be most probably a Croton species. In the floras I checked, the matching Mallotus sp. is mentioned as having  50 or more stamens. This plant has around 15 to 20 stamens.  

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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Date: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:55 AM
Subject: [efloraofindia:51952] Request for ID - 261010RA1
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[JM Garg]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Neil ji..................................................... This could be a Litsea species possibly Litsea deccanensis.

Rashida ji................................................Thanks a lot for the lead Neil. Seems to match. But  a doubt due to the description as per Dr. Almeida's flora wherein in the species L. deccanensis key is mentioned  as "Perianth segments inconspicuous or absent." I am not sure, but perianth segment are seen here right? 

Kunhikannan.......................................the plant is either Croton or Mallotus sp.  opposite leaves are unequal, a feature of these genera.

Pankaj ji..............................................Doesnt look like Euphorbiaceae to me at all.

Rashida ji............................................

Thank you Dr. Kunhikannan ji. It should be most probably a Croton species. In the floras I checked, the matching Mallotus sp. is mentioned as having  50 or more stamens. This plant has around 15 to 20 stamens.  

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[Dinesh Valke]

... this could be most probably Mallotus stenanthus OR lesser: M. aureopunctatus.

Regards.

Dinesh

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Mallotus stenanthus

regards
Radha

On Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:25:59 PM UTC+5:30, Rashida Atthar wrote:

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

This is either Mallotus atrovirens or M. aureo-punctatus.  Female flowers or fruits are required for confirmation.

Tapas.

[J.M. Garg]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation pl.

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

=Mallotus resinosus.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Tapas ji.