Tiny Plant for ID : Zarwani Forest, Gujarat : 09DEC19 : AK-4

Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 9, 2019, 12:26:10 AM12/9/19

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A very tiny plant seen in Zarwani Forest Area during my visit in Nov,19.

Amaranthaceae suggested by Rakesh Ji.

He also suggested Nothosaerva brachiata is abundant in the area.

For validation please.

Aarti

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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 9, 2019, 5:25:14 AM12/9/19

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I guess he is correct!

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 9, 2019, 10:10:50 AM12/9/19

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Saroj Ji,

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

Aarti

On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 3:55:14 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:

I guess he is correct!
Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

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A very tiny plant seen in Zarwani Forest Area during my visit in Nov,19.
Amaranthaceae suggested by Rakesh Ji.
He also suggested Nothosaerva brachiata is abundant in the area.
For validation please.
Aarti

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Dec 14, 2019, 11:28:37 PM12/14/19

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Aerva lanata only,

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Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 15, 2019, 10:08:31 AM12/15/19

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Paradesi Ji,

Thanks for the id.

Regards,

Aarti

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Dec 19, 2019, 8:20:55 AM12/19/19

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For long , on facebook I and many others kept identifying Nothosaerva brachiata as Aerva lanata .......

not so very long ago , this mistake was corrected by , I think , Kasim sir . Then I realised I do not have Aerva lanata in my area ,

or , if it is found , I have not seen it yet . recently I was at Statue of Unity , and there I noticed a very small plant on a hillock ,

I recorded it but could not say if it was A. lanata or N. brachiata . For sake of discussion I am reproducing one photo

...this was hardly 15 cm tall .It was nearly sunset time , low light .

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These are , young plants of Notosaerva brachiata ( By now I am familiar with all stages of its life )

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That is not all ... There is lot of confusion between Alternanthera bettzickiana and Aerva sanguinolenta (ornamental) too !

Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 19, 2019, 9:17:47 AM12/19/19

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Rakesh Ji,

Thanks for the id of my plant and explanation in detail.

Since you are in Gujarat, you would know the plants better in that area.

Regards,

Aarti

Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Dec 19, 2019, 2:07:44 PM12/19/19

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Don't mind Rakesh Ji,

Still am not convinced with Nothoserva what posted Aarti Ji and your first photo also,

am thinking that both Aerva only

Based on Habitat

Water storage areas, like ponds, ditches and small water pits.......Nothoserva

Almost terrestrial habitat, like water and temperature under average conditions.....Aerva

Based on Stamen

Stamens 2.........Nothoserva

Stamens 5.........Aerva

Please confirm with this,

With kind regards.

Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Dec 19, 2019, 2:14:22 PM12/19/19

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Stem rooting at nodes, Flower spinescent.......Alternanthera

Stem without roots at nodes, Flower not spinescent.....Aerva

I hope this is useful for

That is not all ... There is lot of confusion between Alternanthera bettzickiana and Aerva sanguinolenta (ornamental) too !

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Dec 23, 2019, 1:20:12 AM12/23/19

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Aarti ji Paradesi ji , young plants may not be able to show all required traits ... that was my point !

Plant from Statue of Unity ... is young , may be Aerva but can not be sure .

plant from surat , near my place is young too . I know its id because I am familiar ... not every body will be .

Same with plant by Aarti ji ... too small to be sure ... I shall keep it at Genus or family level .

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Rooting at nodes is ok . Flowers prickly is not true for A. sessilis and A. paronychioides , A. philoxeroides . A. brasiliana I'll be checking . A. bettzickiana ??

Is there something like number of stamen/staminodes ?

Aarti S. Khale

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Dec 23, 2019, 3:00:27 AM12/23/19

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Rakesh Ji,

Thanks for your detailed analysis.

You may find it if you visit the place sometime.

Regards,

Aarti

J.M. Garg

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Jan 2, 2020, 3:09:20 AM1/2/20

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I agree with Paradesi ji.

I think both Aarti ji's plant and that of Rakesh ji from Statue of Unity is Aerva lanata only as per comparative images at Aerva

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Aarti S. Khale

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Jan 2, 2020, 8:23:40 AM1/2/20

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Thanks a lot Garg Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

Aarti S. Khale

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Jan 2, 2020, 8:46:05 AM1/2/20

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This picture matches a lot with my plant.

Aarti

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Aerva-lanata-whole-plant_fig4_273769220

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