Shrub for ID : Thane : 16APR19 : AK-6

[Aarti S. Khale]

Plant seen at Dattaji Salvi Udyan in Thane last year.

Elaeagnus Species suggested by the person looking after the garden.

Aarti

[Ushadi Micromini]

yes, could very well be

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[Anil Thakur]

May be, madam
It can be some exotic ornamental species.

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Usha Di and Anil Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

[Saroj Kasaju]

Elaeagnus pungens Thunb. ??

 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Saroj Ji,

Thanks for suggesting the Species.

Can we check for Elaeagnus macrophylla?

The leaves look close.

Regards,

Aarti

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Is it ornamental Elaeagnus, Madam ?

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

I'll check in Encyclopaedias for Elaeagnus. Kindly inform whether ornamental or edible ?

Regards 

On Wed 17 Apr, 2019, 8:07 PM Aarti S. Khale, <aarti...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Aarti S. Khale]

Anil Ji, Saroj Ji, Dinesh Ji,

I went through Dinesh Ji's pictures of the same garden on Flickr.

He has identified it as Elaeagnus umbellata.

Anil Ji, frankly I have no idea whether ornamental or edible.

I have visited the place only twice and not yet met the person who is looking after the garden.

Dinesh Ji, can help out with the id since you have seen it flowering.

Regards,

Aarti  

 

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Madam, E. umbellata is native and edible plant in my region. Your sample does not belong to E. umbellata. I will also check it for ornamental in my collection whenever I get time.

Regards

[Aarti S. Khale]

Anil Ji, thanks for your quick response.

To me, the leaves look very close to Elaeagnus macrophylla.

This is just a suggested id.

Regards,

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

This appears to be close to your another posting at Shrub for ID : Pali,Maharashtra : 060113 : AK-1

Most of the observations from your area are of Elaeagnus conferta Roxb. as per details herein.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Garg Ji.

I was only going by Dinesh Ji's id from the same garden.

Regards,

Aarti

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji and Aarti ji.

I have gone with the gardener's knowledge. Garg ji, please let me know if photo of any particular aspect of the plant will help resolve ID.

I went with umbellata, because I have seen conferta only in the wild, and it is not commonly found.

I will get a picture of lower surface of the leaf.

Will also check whether it is a climber or not.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Ushadi Micromini]

i love this collegial discussion

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dinesh ji.

On search, I did not find your images of E. umbellate

May I see your images.

[Dinesh Valke]

Aarti ji, may be some typo while searching.

Here they are: https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=91314344%40N00&sort=date-taken-desc&text=Elaeagnus%20umbellata&view_all=1

Regards.

Dinesh

[Aarti S. Khale]

Dinesh Ji,

Thanks for the link.

Actually, Garg Ji was searching for it.

Regards,

Aarti

[Dinesh Valke]

:) Thanks Aarti ji.

In my haste, missed checking whom I addressed !!

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Dinesh ji,

Your images in the link looks more closer to images of Umesh Tiwari ji at Elaeagnus indica

These looks different from images of Elaeagnus umbellata at

https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=3021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaeagnus_umbellata

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji.

I am not confident about the species, because I am not familiar. I will post my pictures separately soon, so that the ID can be discussed / validated in that post.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Dinesh ji,

On further scrutiny, I found that leaves are quite variable and indeterminate for the id.

Key feature to separate the species in this genus is the shape of the flowers.

Flowers in your plant on Flickr matches with Elaeagnus triflora var. triflora as per illustration and Keys from Flora Malesiana

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very very much Garg ji for getting to correct ID.

I will revise my notes at flickr soon.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

Thanks for the id.

Regards,

Aarti

[Dinesh Valke]

Hi Garg ji,

I have revised my notes at flickr, the pictures of Elaeagnus triflora var. triflora can be found with this new search words.

Regards.

Dinesh

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Elaeagnus species- Thane, Maharashtra

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Elaeagnus species- Thane, Maharashtra

Group discussion at

Shrub for ID : Thane : 16APR19 : AK-6 (google.com)

[Aarti S. Khale]

Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from Thane.

Regards,

Aarti