03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID

[Gurcharan Singh]

This herbaceous plant up to 90 cm tall, while still in vegetative condition was found growing along roadsides mixed up with Sesamum, Cassia, Martynia and Parthenium. It has long petioled ovate-cordate thick rugose leaves, reaching 20 cm in width, almost as long and petiole nearly as long as blade. The leaves are crumpled and narrower when young. Undersurface of leaves is whitish. It was still in vegetative condition, growing near Nagrota between Udhampur & Jammu in J & K State. Photographed on August 22. Any clue please.  

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[Tanay Bose]

Sir ji is it something from Solanaceae ??

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[H S]

a wild guess Hyptis suaveolens??? 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I have seen H. suaveolens growing in Herbal garden in Delhi. The leaves here are much larger and broader. 

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[H S]

sirji, garden plant and road side plant have much variation in size and shape of leaves..

regards,

[harithasandhya]

It seems like Hyptis suaveolens to me too. But am not sure. I have
been uprooting a lot of Hyptis suaveolens recently while weeding a
plot! Unfortunately I didn't photograph the plant. When the leaves are
crushed it leaves a black colour on your fingers.

Regards,
Sandhya

On Sep 3, 11:17 am, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sirji, garden plant and road side plant have much variation in size and
> shape of leaves..
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> regards,
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> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have seen H. suaveolens growing in Herbal garden in Delhi. The leaves
> > here are much larger and broader.
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> > --
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> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:21 AM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> a wild guess Hyptis suaveolens???
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> >> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> Sir ji is it something from Solanaceae ??
> >>> tanay
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> >>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> This herbaceous plant up to 90 cm tall, while still in vegetative
> >>>> condition was found growing along roadsides mixed up with Sesamum, Cassia,
> >>>> Martynia and Parthenium. It has long petioled ovate-cordate thick rugose
> >>>> leaves, reaching 20 cm in width, almost as long and petiole nearly as long
> >>>> as blade. The leaves are crumpled and narrower when young. Undersurface of
> >>>> leaves is whitish. It was still in vegetative condition, growing near
> >>>> Nagrota between Udhampur & Jammu in J & K State. Photographed on August 22.
> >>>> Any clue please.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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> >>> --

> >>> *Tanay Bose*

> >>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> >>> Department of Botany.
> >>> University of British Columbia .
> >>> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> >>> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> >>> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >>>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >>>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> >>> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca

> >>> *Webpages:*

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H S and Sandhya ji

Please also consider that leaves of Hyptis suaveolens are not white underneath, also the leaves are not more than 8 cm long and not more than 4 cm broad as per eFlora of Pakistan, here they are up to 20 cm long and almost as broad. Can we accomodate that under simple variation. I am uploading H. suaveolens  from Delhi.

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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[H S]

sirji, your photo is of full grown plant, whereas the posted photo is very small, m not able to see beneath part in any of the photos... still i think its Hyptis...

regards,

[Giby Kuriakose]

I too think that this is Hyptis suaveolens of Lamiaceae family. The small plants always have larger leaves than that of larger/ mature plants. 

Any way if we get the flower pictures, it would be easy to confirm the same. 

 

Regards,

Giby

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[shrikant ingalhalikar]

Pls check if it is Xanthium of Asteraceae. Regards, Shrikant

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Dear H S and Sandhya ji

Please also consider that leaves of Hyptis suaveolens are not white underneath, also the leaves are not more than 8 cm long and not more than 4 cm broad as per eFlora of Pakistan, here they are up to 20 cm long and almost as broad. Can we accomodate that under simple variation. I am uploading H. suaveolens  from Delhi.”

 

“sirji, your photo is of full grown plant, whereas the posted photo is very small, m not able to see beneath part in any of the photos... still i think its Hyptis...
regards, H.S.”

 

“I too think that this is Hyptis suaveolens of Lamiaceae family. The small plants always have larger leaves than that of larger/ mature plants. Any way if we get the flower pictures, it would be easy to confirm the same.  
Regards,

Giby”

 

"Pls check if it is Xanthium of Asteraceae. Regards, Shrikant"

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[amit chauhan]

Dear all,

 

Hyptis suaveolens is an aromatic plant pls check the aroma can it be Pedalium or Xanthium

 

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[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Dear H S and Sandhya ji

Please also consider that leaves of Hyptis suaveolens are not white underneath, also the leaves are not more than 8 cm long and not more than 4 cm broad as per eFlora of Pakistan, here they are up to 20 cm long and almost as broad. Can we accomodate that under simple variation. I am uploading H. suaveolens  from Delhi.” from Singh ji. 

“sirji, your photo is of full grown plant, whereas the posted photo is very small, m not able to see beneath part in any of the photos... still i think its Hyptis...
regards, H.S.” 

“I too think that this is Hyptis suaveolens of Lamiaceae family. The small plants always have larger leaves than that of larger/ mature plants. Any way if we get the flower pictures, it would be easy to confirm the same. 

Regards,

Giby”

"Hyptis suaveolens is an aromatic plant pls check the aroma can it be Pedalium or Xanthium" from Amit Chauhan ji.

 

 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

If it is  Xanthium it should be Xanthium strumarium L. only !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 2:55 PM Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Xanthium species ?

It is  Hyptis suaveolens, I saw flowers subsequently

Group discussion at

03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID (google.com)

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarded for ID

Distributed as Xanthium species ?

Group discussion at

03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarded for ID

Distributed as Xanthium species ?

Group discussion at

03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID (google.com)

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Please ignore my two posts about it being Hyptis, written in error. I had deleted both in web thread, but don't know how these reappeared here.

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[J.M. Garg]

Yes, more likely to be Hyptis suaveolens rather than Xanthium strumarium

On Mon, 31 May 2021 at 14:40, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Xanthium species ?

It is  Hyptis suaveolens, I saw flowers subsequently

Group discussion at

03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID (google.com)

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Yes I too agree with you both  for Hyptis,

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On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 12:34, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, more likely to be Hyptis suaveolens rather than Xanthium strumarium

On Mon, 31 May 2021 at 14:40, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Xanthium species ?

It is  Hyptis suaveolens, I saw flowers subsequently

Group discussion at

03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID (google.com)

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 8:26:13 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: 03092011GS1 a tall herb from near Nagrota in J & K for ID
To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>

This herbaceous plant up to 90 cm tall, while still in vegetative condition was found growing along roadsides mixed up with Sesamum, Cassia, Martynia and Parthenium. It has long petioled ovate-cordate thick rugose leaves, reaching 20 cm in width, almost as long and petiole nearly as long as blade. The leaves are crumpled and narrower when young. Undersurface of leaves is whitish. It was still in vegetative condition, growing near Nagrota between Udhampur & Jammu in J & K State. Photographed on August 22. Any clue please.  

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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