ID requested: Unid Climber/Liana (Sigur forests, Nilgiris, TN)

[Hari Venu Radha]

This is from dry thorn forests.

I do not have flowers. Only a fruit, it seems.

[Harikrishnan VR]

 Any ideas?

HARIKRISHNAN Venugopalan Nair Radhamoni


Everything will again be great and mighty 
The land simple and the water bountiful
The trees gigantic and the walls very small
And in the valleys strong and multiformed,
A nation of shepherds and peasant farmers
~~~~~~~~~~~~~Rilke

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:27 PM Hari Venu Radha <hari...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is from dry thorn forests.

I do not have flowers. Only a fruit, it seems.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
May be from Apocynaceae

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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

Secamone emetica (Retz.) R.Br. ex Schultes ?

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[Mahadeswara]

The foliage resembles the suggested ID.  But fruit (follicle)  is single here. It is  a pair always. That is why the doubt. 

[radha veach]

Exystelma esculentum ?

Regards

Radha

[J.M. Garg]

I think fruit looks a bit different from images at Oxystelma esculentum

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Radha ji

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 21:15, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, I agree with you. It was just a guess.

Sorry about the typo.

regards

Radha

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

May be from Apocynaceae- from me

Secamone emetica (Retz.) R.Br. ex Schultes ? Thanks & regards Dr. Santhan P

The foliage resembles the suggested ID.  But fruit (follicle)  is single here. It is  a pair always. That is why the doubt. - from Mahadeswara ji

Oxystelma esculentum ? Regards Radha

I think fruit looks a bit different from images at Oxystelma esculentum- from me

Yes, I agree with you. It was just a guess.

regards Radha

Could not find a match as per comparative images at Apocynaceae- from me

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This is from dry thorn forests.

I do not have flowers. Only a fruit, it seems.

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[Harikrishnan VR]

Thanks, Gargji!

HARIKRISHNAN Venugopalan Radhamoni

Everything will again be great and mighty 
The land simple and the water bountiful
The trees gigantic and the walls very small
And in the valleys strong and multiformed,
A nation of shepherds and peasant farmers
~~~~~~~~~~~~~Rilke

[navendu page]

Agree with Santhan Ji, most likely to be Secamone emetica

Navendu

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Navendu ji,
Are not the fruits look different?

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[navendu page]

Have not seen the fruit of Secamone but the leaves seem to match. Cant think of any other Apocynaceae with such narrow leaves.

Navendu

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Navendu ji.

Fruit look different as per GBIF- specimen

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[Harikrishnan VR]

Secamone emetica has been reported before from the area (Sigur Plateau).

Thanks, Dr. Page.

HARIKRISHNAN Venugopalan Radhamoni


Everything will again be great and mighty 
The land simple and the water bountiful
The trees gigantic and the walls very small
And in the valleys strong and multiformed,
A nation of shepherds and peasant farmers
~~~~~~~~~~~~~Rilke