Aarti S. Khale

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Sep 26, 2019, 12:17:02 PM9/26/19

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Echinacea Species seen near the Niagara Falls.

Could be Echinacea simulata?

It was evening time, and I couldn't get better pictures.

Aarti

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210608245.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210131651.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210539184.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-P1200334.JPG

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2019, 12:45:43 PM9/26/19

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Seems correct !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Aarti S. Khale

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Sep 26, 2019, 1:06:02 PM9/26/19

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Thanks for validating Saroj Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

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Seems correct !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Echinacea Species seen near the Niagara Falls.
Could be Echinacea simulata?
It was evening time, and I couldn't get better pictures.
Aarti

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ushadi

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Sep 26, 2019, 3:43:01 PM9/26/19

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I know of at least two Echinacae plants that have skinny (less than 5 cms wide ) leaves

and flowers that look like this... ie similar.... to what what you have ....

E. pallida and E. simulata.

I don't remember your earlier submission

but here ...in this case

I cant see the pollen grain color

that is the only way to differentiate Echinacea pallida from E. simulata

I quote

"Key to Echinacea in North Carolina

Key adapted from Binns et al. (2002), Urbatsch et al. (2006 [FNA]), and Weakley (2008). Photos by Krings, unless otherwise indicated. Maps courtesy of USDA PLANTS and the North Carolina Natural Heritage Program.

1. Leaves lanceolate to ovate, the larger > 5 cm wide...2.

2. Leaves glabrous on both sides, or scabrous above; receptacle bracts (paleae) 7–12 mm long, awns about a fourth the length of the entire bract...E. laevigata*

2'. Leaves pubescent or scabrous on both sides; receptacle bracts (paleae) 9–15 mm long, awns about half the length of the entire bract...E. purpurea

1'. Leaves lanceolate to linear, the larger < 5 cm wide...3.

3. Fresh pollen white...E. pallida

3'. Fresh pollen pale to bright yellow...E. simulata " end quote...

from URL https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/echinacea.htm

go to this web page and use the + sign to look at the pictures

so unless we see the pollen

its either E. pallida or it is E. simulata.

not any further

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Ushadi

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Aarti S. Khale

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Sep 27, 2019, 2:51:45 AM9/27/19

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Usha Di,

Thanks for pointing out the differences in the two species.

Will try searching further.

Regards,

Aarti

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Gurcharan Singh

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May 30, 2021, 2:19:15 AM5/30/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Echinacea simulata?

Group discussion at

Echinacea Species for ID : Niagara Falls, New York : 26SEP19 : AK-12 (google.com)

Gurcharan Singh

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May 30, 2021, 2:20:10 AM5/30/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Echinacea simulata?

Group discussion at

Echinacea Species for ID : Niagara Falls, New York : 26SEP19 : AK-12 (google.com)

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210608245.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210131651.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-IMG_20170627_210539184.jpg

Niagara Falls State Park-P1200334.JPG

Aarti S. Khale

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May 30, 2021, 10:23:45 PM5/30/21

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Gurcharan Ji,

Thanks for forwarding my earlier post from Niagara Falls.

Hope to get the id sorted.

Regards,

Aarti

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Jul 28, 2025, 7:47:08 AM7/28/25

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Echinacea pallida (Nutt.) Nutt. ??

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Aarti S. Khale <aarti...@gmail.com>

1. Leaves lanceolate to ovate, the larger > 5 cm wide...2.2. Leaves glabrous on both sides, or scabrous above; receptacle bracts (paleae) 7–12 mm long, awns about a fourth the length of the entire bract...E. laevigata*

3'. Fresh pollen pale to bright yellow...E. simulata " end quote...from URL https://projects.ncsu.edu/cals/plantbiology/ncsc/rare/echinacea.htmgo to this web page and use the + sign to look at the picturesso unless we see the pollenits either E. pallida or it is E. simulata.

Aarti S. Khale

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Jul 29, 2025, 12:04:46 AM7/29/25

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Thanks Saroj Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 29, 2025, 1:29:40 AM7/29/25

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OK Aarti Ji.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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