SK97SEP12-1016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Gund Bhaktapur Nepal on 11 September 2016 at 5100 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Wonderful images, Saroj ji

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

Centranthera nepalensis D. Don. syn Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis (D. Don) Merr. or Centranthera indica  since C. indica is not listed in Nepal.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=106032

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

[J.M. Garg]

The following give distribution of Centranthera indica in Nepal:

IUCN Red List (LC)  &

India Biodiversity Portal

Following give it Centranthera nepalensis D. Don as a syn. of Centranthera indica :

Flora of Goa, Diu, Daman, Dadra & Nagarhaveli, Volume 2 &

India Biodiversity Portal

However, this is not agreed to be IUCN Red List (LC) , The Plant List Ver. 1, Flora of China & Catalogue of Life

So definitely there is some confusion.

These images appear quite close to the images in efi at Centranthera indica

I could not find any images of Centranthera nepalensis on net.

Pl. help in sorting this out.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

I guess it is Centranthera nepalensis D. Don as a syn. of Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis (D. Don) Merr.

https://www.google.com.np/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj02qr-tpPPAhVGlZQKHXdxBygQjxwIAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hkwildlife.net%2FForum%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D50232&psig=AFQjCNHzwAaihUqCfQoDvFysS2-TohVRgA&ust=1474099574118556

Please validate.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

Adding some more pictures I shot on 26 September at the same location which I hope will help to decide the ID .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Vijayasankar Raman]

The pictures of C. nepalensis at this link http://www.hkwildlife.net/Forum/viewthread.php?tid=50232 look very different from those posted here, which resemble C. indica.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

Awaiting final verdict from the experts.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I would like to go with Vijayasankar ji.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you all !

[Saroj Kasaju]

Fresh images from Pokhara shot on 10 August 2017 at 2800 ft.

Experts from Nepal confirmed it as C. nepalensis not C. indica.

Any further opinion please !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

[J.M. Garg]

In addition to the remarks given earlier, on perusal of FOC illustration, it is clear to me that Centranthera nepalensis D. Don (& in turn Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis (D. Don) Merr.) is nothing but Centranthera indica (L.) Gamble

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

I did not find any links showing their relation with C. indica and 

neither in books. On the other hand some friends indicated it as 

C.nepalensis.

So I am a bit confused.

 Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

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[J.M. Garg]

A reply from another thread:

"Saroj Kasaju ji

I have seen your post of Centranthera from Nepal and that plant is matching with my another post on Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis having rose coloured corolla and darker purplish corolla tube. 

That one should be C.cochinchinensis var. nepalensis.

However I will recomend you to please take measurement of Corolla if possible ,it should be about 15mm long.

Regards

Ashutosh Sharma"

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Ashutosh.

I shall look into this next year.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Centranthera cochinchinensis var. nepalensis (D.Don) Merr. !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Nepali name : डमुरा घाँस Damuraa Ghaans 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju