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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 14, 2017, 1:43:23 PM3/14/17
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Dear Members,

LocationGokarna Forest, Kathmandu, Nepal
Date: 13 January 2016
Altitude: 4500 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 14, 2017, 2:57:55 PM3/14/17
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Could this be Sarcococca coriacea?

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 14, 2017, 3:28:04 PM3/14/17
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If the answer in no, then try Neolitsea umbrosa!

J.M. Garg

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Mar 14, 2017, 8:00:17 PM3/14/17
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Thanks,  Tapas ji

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 15, 2017, 6:52:04 AM3/15/17
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Thank you Tapas ji for ID.

Sarcococca coriacea (Hook.) Sweet (accepted name)

Nepali Names : फितिफिया Phitiphiyaa / बाख्रे घाँस Baakhre Ghaans / तेल्पारो Telpaaro

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 15, 2017, 8:45:11 AM3/15/17
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Welcome Saroj ji.

J.M. Garg

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Mar 15, 2017, 9:07:02 AM3/15/17
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Thanks,  Saroj ji

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 15, 2017, 12:40:27 PM3/15/17
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Someone is guessing it is Cocculus laurifolius.
Opinion please ! 

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 16, 2017, 9:29:06 AM3/16/17
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I made a suggestion only. The narrow leaves decurrent into petioles, first pair of lateral nerves somewhat stronger than the subsequent pairs, axillary clustered cymes perhaps somewhat abbreviated and racemiform with fruits at basal nodes prompted me to think of Sarcococca. Whether ovary and fruits were 2-locular?
Good images are available in EFI page.

J.M. Garg

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Mar 17, 2017, 12:33:42 AM3/17/17
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Thanks,  Tapas ji

J.M. Garg

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Mar 29, 2017, 8:46:14 AM3/29/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Could this be Sarcococca coriacea? If the answer in no, then try Neolitsea umbrosa!- from Tapas ji                                        

Thank you Tapas ji for ID.
Sarcococca coriacea (Hook.) Sweet (accepted name)
Nepali Names : फितिफिया Phitiphiyaa / बाख्रे घाँस Baakhre Ghaans / तेल्पारो Telpaaro
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju                                 

Someone is guessing it is Cocculus laurifolius.

Opinion please ! - from Saroj ji 

I made a suggestion only. The narrow leaves decurrent into petioles, first pair of lateral nerves somewhat stronger than the subsequent pairs, axillary clustered cymes perhaps somewhat abbreviated and racemiform with fruits at basal nodes prompted me to think of Sarcococca. Whether ovary and fruits were 2-locular?

Good images are available in EFI page. - from Tapas ji

 I think closer to Sarcococca as in Sarcococca coriacea rather than images at Cocculus laurifolius


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J.M. Garg

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Mar 29, 2017, 8:49:36 AM3/29/17
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Same images posted by you at Fwd: SK4MAR5-2016:ID & identified as Neolitsea umbrosa (Nees) Gamble by Tapas ji.

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 29, 2017, 1:28:52 PM3/29/17
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Gargji,

Really very confusing situation created by Sarjo ji by posting three different species in an earlier thread as indicated by you - the images with red fruits are of one species, and black fruits and flowers are supposed Sarcococca posted separately now and the last image is supposed Lauraceae again posted recently.

In the present thread, again, the first image has green fruits and somewhat looking different from the black fruits.  Could it be a mixture again or images taken from different trees? Look at the black fruits, there are remains of styles at the apices which are appearing bilobed at tip indicating that the fruits were 2-locular and in such case this would be Sarcococca. The species S. coriacea is known to have 2-locular fruits.  Saroj ji is the best person to clarify.
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Tapas.

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 29, 2017, 1:55:47 PM3/29/17
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Dear all,

In my earlier post it was mix upof mutiple post so I have reposted it separately thinking that all images are from same plant ! May be green fruits imagecis from different species. 
Let us focus on black fruits only.
Sorry for confusion.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

J.M. Garg

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Feb 20, 2020, 3:00:12 AM2/20/20
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These images appears to be of Sarcococca wallichii 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 20, 2020, 4:26:36 AM2/20/20
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Feb 20, 2020, 5:19:29 AM2/20/20
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Solved after a long time.

Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 20, 2020, 5:36:44 AM2/20/20
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Yes Tapas Da!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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