Solanum ID from Bangladesh SM144

[Sourav Mahmud]

Habit:Shrub

Habitat: Wild

Location: Bandarban

Flowering: June

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[surajit koley]

Prickly ?

Looks like Solanum torvum Sw.

Thanks n regards

[Sourav Mahmud]

Not Prickly

[surajit koley]

Then it is not Solanum torvum Sw.

At the same time Solanum erianthum D. Don should have dense stellate hair all over, including pedicels. sepals. I fail to find anything else.

Thank you

Regards

[Nidhan Singh]

I still think this is Solanum torvum...

Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh

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Department of Botany
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[surajit koley]

Sir,

I also think it doesn't look like Solanum erianthum D. Don. The only other regionally distributed unarmed white flowered Solanum is S. spirale Roxb. But this plant doesn't look like S. spirale either.

Regards

[Gurcharan Singh]

The photographs are not well lit but habit, absence of prickles and inflorescence and flowers suggest S. erianthum.

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[surajit koley]

Good morning Sir.

Certainly, if the plant is unarmed, S. erianthum is the only possibility, though calyx looks different and not woolly. But, it is to be noted that older branches of S. torvum have very few prickles one may overlook at times.

Thank you

Regards

[Sourav Mahmud]

Dear Alll

Thanks for all of your comments. From me it is not Solanum torvum or  Solanum erianthum

Regards

Sourav

[surajit koley]

Sure, why not, Dear....

Thank you

Regards

[surajit koley]

Dear,

I am no telling that your plant must be either Solanum torvum or Solanum erianthum, though the first look gave me impression of S. torvum.

Attached here are two plates from Icones. Please provide us the list of Solanum found in your region so that we could explore a bit further.

Thank you

Regards

On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Sourav Mahmud <nature...@gmail.com> wrote:

The leaves is not  similar with Solanum erianthum that I have senn before 

[Sourav Mahmud]

Dear Surajit Ji

I have not seen any  single prickels  on stem , so I was confused about S. torvum while I was in field and close to the plant.  It is along the hilly road of high alleviation

Here is the list  as far ECFFB-V-10 (Encyclopedia of Flora and Fauna of Bangladesh)

1. S. americanum

2.. barbisetum

3.S. capsicoides

4. S. erianthum

5. S. glaucophyllum

6.S. lasiocarpum

7.S.. melongena

8.S. myriacanthum

9. S. nigrum

10. S. sisymbrifolium

11. S. spirale

12. S. torvum

13. S. trilobatum

14. S. tuberosum

15.S. villosum

16. S. violaceum

17. S. virginiatum

Rigards

Sourav

[surajit koley]

Dear,

Sorry for expressing my doubt over the presence/absence of prickle. I took you as of myself! For, I always miss to note some character while taking photographs, specially the smell of flowers and abaxial leaf view.... really.... and often need to revisit the plant.

We can skip No. 2, 3, 6, 8, 10, 12, 13, 16 and 17 of your list, since they are armed.

We can also skip 1, 9, 14 and 15, for they are herb, mostly glabrous or pubescence.

No. 5. S. glaucophyllum = http://www.hear.org/pier/species/solanum_glaucophyllum.htm

No. 11. S. spirale = http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020606 and http://www.flora.sa.gov.au/efsa/lucid/Solanaceae/Solanum%20species/key/Australian%20Solanum%20species/Media/Html/Solanum_spirale_(syn._S._callium).htm

I think your plant doesn't look like No. 5 or 11.

No.4, S. erianthum is currently being discussed.

So, the only species remains is no.7, i.e. Solanum melongena which is prickly and in some cultivated form unarmed.

Now, please tell us your view freely, we are all learner here.

Thank you very much for providing the list and starting the thread.

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Looks like Solanum torvum Sw.

Thanks n regards Surajit
Not Prickly- from Sourav ji

Then it is not Solanum torvum Sw. At the same time Solanum erianthum D. Don should have dense stellate hair all over, including pedicels. sepals. I fail to find anything else. Thank you

Regards Surajit

The photographs are not well lit but habit, absence of prickles and inflorescence and flowers suggest S. erianthum. Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Thanks for all of your comments. From me it is not Solanum torvum or Solanum erianthum Regards Sourav
I have not seen any single prickels on stem , so I was confused about S. torvum while I was in field and close to the plant. It is along the hilly road of high alleviation

Here is the list as far ECFFB-V-10 (Encyclopedia of Flora and Fauna of Bangladesh) 1. S. americanum 2.. barbisetum 3.S. capsicoides 4. S. erianthum 5. S. glaucophyllum 6.S. lasiocarpum 7.S.. melongena 8.S. myriacanthum 9. S. nigrum 10. S. sisymbrifolium 11. S. spirale 12. S. torvum 13. S. trilobatum 14. S. tuberosum 15.S. villosum 16. S. violaceum 17. S. virginiatum Rigards Sourav

Sorry for expressing my doubt over the presence/absence of prickle. I took you as of myself! For, I always miss to note some character while taking photographs, specially the smell of flowers and abaxial leaf view.... really.... and often need to revisit the plant.

We can skip No. 2, 3, 6, 8, 10, 12, 13, 16 and 17 of your list, since they are armed. We can also skip 1, 9, 14 and 15, for they are herb, mostly glabrous or pubescence. No. 5. S. glaucophyllum = http://www.hear.org/pier/species/solanum_glaucophyllum.htm No. 11. S. spirale = http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020606 and http://www.flora.sa.gov.au/efsa/lucid/Solanaceae/Solanum%20species/key/Australian%20Solanum%20species/Media/Html/Solanum_spirale_(syn._S._callium).htm I think your plant doesn't look like No. 5 or 11. No.4, S. erianthum is currently being discussed. So, the only species remains is no.7, i.e. Solanum melongena which is prickly and in some cultivated form unarmed. Now, please tell us your view freely, we are all learner here. Thank you very much for providing the list and starting the thread. Regards

Surajit

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Solanum species- Bandarban, Bangladesh 

Group discussion at

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Solanum species- Bandarban, Bangladesh 

Group discussion at

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Solanum torvum Swartz !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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