SK200NOV15-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Champadevi, Nepal

Altitude:  6000 ft.

Date: 12 November 2016

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Have you checked Lauraceae?

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji

[Saroj Kasaju]

Tried all Lauraceae listed in Nepal but could not come to the conclusion.

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

From the fruits and leaves it appeared to me to be Lauraceae which it is not as the number of stamens in Lauraceae rarely exceed 9 in number.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[C CHADWELL]

No suggestions. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[J.M. Garg]

Any idea about the family ?

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[navendu page]

A species of Symplocos

Navendu

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Navendu ji.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Sasidharan ji.

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Symplocaceae

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all, 

Is it Symplocos glomerata King ex C. B. Cl. .

I guess all description matching according to the link.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200017657

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Also check with the following:

Symplocos ramosissima

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=2879&flora_id=2

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200017691

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200017657

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=2681&flora_id=2

I think more closer to images & illustrations above to Symplocos ramosissima

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

I guess the flowering and fruiting period is matching to Symplocos glomerata King ex C. B. Cl. but not to Symplocos ramosissima Wallich ex G. Don.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

There is no mention of flowering and fruiting period in Checklist of Nepal as per the following:

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200017691

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200017657

If you are talking of Flora of China, it can not be relied in this matter as it varies from place to place.

What about other aspects as given in the illustrations ?

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

I guess you are correct. 

Nepali Names : दब्दबे  Dabdabe/ खराने Kharaane / थब्थबे Thabthabe /        कौली  Kauli

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

Enclosing the book print of Symplocos 

found in and around Kathmandu Valley

to re confirm the ID validation.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

I guess the description and the drawing matches with Symplocos glomerata King ex C.B. Clarke 

according to the efn link Symplocos glomerata .

                                                                          Species Symplocos glomerata King ex C.B.Clarke                                                                                                                                    

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Fruit images of Symplocos glomerata look different as per

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F2135%2F581%2F02648680.jpg

https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=8134327

http://tracuuduoclieu.vn/symplocos-glomerata-king-ex-c-b-clarke.html

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Any further opinion?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I will go for Symplocos kuroki H. Nagamasu rather than Symplocos ramosissima Wall. ex G. Don as per images and details herein.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

As per Taxonomic revision of the Symplocos nakaharae complex (Symplocaceae) with special reference to fruit morphology by Bo LIU Hai-Ning QIN- Journal of Systematics and Evolution 51 (1): 94–114 (2013), Symplocos lucida (Thunberg) Siebold & Zuccarini, S. kuroki Nagam. and Symplocos theifolia D. Don, all are accepted species with only Symplocos theifolia D. Don found in our area.

So our plant is Symplocos theifolia D. Don only with syn. as per efi page at Symplocos theifolia

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju