SK1543 27 Oct 2018

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Nagarkot, Nepal

Date: 6 September, 2018

Elevation:6800 ft.

Habit : Wild

Euphorbiaceae sp.  ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Initial identification Euphorbia sikkimensis.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Tapas Da '

Flower size is around 1 mm.or slightly more.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

May not be Euphorbiaceae  ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Saroj ji,

I wrote "initial identification".  The leaves are same.

[Ushadi Micromini]

superb pics

i esp love the habitat pic, shows how tiny they are, and that you really had to pay attention and look for them

vary good

usha di

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Usha di
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Usha di !

Saroj Kasaju.

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Please look here.

You have to search elsewhere.

Regards.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear tapas Da,

What about the  Euphorbia dracunculoides Lam.  ??

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242321407

http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:346321-1

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Now Balakrishnan Sir will comment.

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Tapas Da!

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Initial identification Euphorbia sikkimensis - from Tapas ji

Flower size is around 1 mm or slightly more. Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

Please look here. You have to search elsewhere.- from Tapas ji.

What about the  Euphorbia dracunculoides Lam.  ?? http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242321407 http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:346321-1  Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Garg,

As suggested by Tapas Da could we seek help from Balakrishnan Sir ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Nambiyath Balakrishnan]

Dear All

Yes, it appears to be Euphorbia sikkimensis Boiss., found in E. Himalayas from Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan and Arunachal Pradesh. at 2000 - 4000 m altitude.

N. P. Balakrishnan

13/11/18

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Balakrishnan sir / Tapas Da,

Finally the correct ID.

Why is the image looks slight different in FoI?

Euphorbia sikkimensis - Sikkim Spurge - Flowers of Indiahttps://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Sikkim%20Spurge.html

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Please do not take it otherwise but some one suggested uphorbia prolifera Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don.

Euphorbia prolifera 

Any further opinion?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Balakrishna sir!

Saroj Kasaju

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:59 PM Nambiyath Balakrishnan <npba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Saroj

Euphorbia prolifera belongs to section ESULA 

Euphorbia sikkimensis belongs to section TITHYMALUS

The differences between the two sections are:

a).  Glands crescent-shaped, with horns; ray leaves usually opposite; ovary usually smooth -----Esula

b).  Glands transversely oblong or rounded, without horns; ray leaves usually ternate; 

      ovary papillate or granulate, or rarely smooth -----------------------------------------------------Tithymalus

If you have access to fresh plants with flowers, check the above characters. You will get the answer

With regards

Balakrishnan

21-11-2018

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[J.M. Garg]

On further checking, I also feel these are different from images/ illustration of Euphorbia sikkimensis at

FOC illustration 

RHS Gardening 

https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Sikkim%20Spurge.html

Euphorbia sikkimensis ?

May I request Balakrishnan ji to have a look pl.

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 20:30
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[Nambiyath Balakrishnan]

Dear All

It looks like Euphorbia donii Oudejans (syn. E. longifolia D.Don, non Lam. ) which is allied to, but differs in long linear leaves and umbellate cyathia at apex of rays, supported by 4 - 5 ovate leaves. Check with the description in my book on Indian Euphorbias.

Balakrishnan

13 Dec. '18

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Balakrishnan ji.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you all.

I guess need a further search before finalising.

Could someone check in the book as suggested by Balakrishnan sir !

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I also feel these look different from images of Euphorbia donii at other sites as below:

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/euphorbiaceae/euphorbia/euphorbia-donii

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Don%27s%20Spurge.html

http://www.asianflora.com/Euphorbiaceae/Euphorbia-donii.htm

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Euphorbia_donii

https://www.greatdixter.co.uk/nursery-catalogue/products/euphorbia-donii-amjilassa/

https://www.bethchatto.co.uk/plants-for-general-conditions/euphorbia-donii_1.htm

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Ashutosh ji for the clue. I guess it is more close to Bupleurum falcatum L.

among listed in Nepal : Bupleurum !

Seeking further opinion.

Thank you all.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

To me appears more close to images at Bupleurum gracillimum rather than those at Bupleurum falcatum

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Shall we wait for the final opinion from Tapas da and Balakrishna Sir?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Saroj ji,

Please go ahead with your own judgements.

[J.M. Garg]

A reply from Saroj ji:

I shall take it as Bupleurum gracillimum Klotzsch.

[Ushadi Micromini]

what is this'

children playing

why does and when does Saroj ji communicate to us thru Mr  Garg!!!!

Usha di
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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Ushadi,

Actually this came to me only by mistake.

So I thought it to forward it on the group.

[Ushadi Micromini]

you are too good

thanks

Usha di
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[Saroj Kasaju]

This has been re-identified as Bupleurm tenue Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don.

Please have a look !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I agree with you, Saroj ji.

With regards,
J.M.Garg

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Bupleurum hamiltonii Balak. !

Nepali Names : मरीचे घाँस Mariche Ghaans । ताङ्गलिङ्गतोप Taanggalinggatop । ताप्ता Taaptaa  । बन साम्पु Ban Saampu । जेमबिर Jemabir 

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju