SK810 17 OCT-2017:ID

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 18, 2017, 12:45:08 PM10/18/17
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Dear Members,

Location:  Kharidhunga, Sindhupalchok, Nepal
Date: 6 September 2017
Elevation : 8700 ft.

My first Frtillaria but need correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 18, 2017, 12:46:03 PM10/18/17
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SK810 19 OCT-2017:ID

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 19, 2017, 9:36:40 AM10/19/17
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Beautiful images. 

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 19, 2017, 11:10:57 AM10/19/17
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 23, 2017, 2:06:20 PM10/23/17
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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J.M. Garg

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J.M. Garg

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Check other species not available in efi site. 

On 02-Nov-2017 11:32 PM, "Saroj Kasaju" <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any clue Mr. Garg ?


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Nov 10, 2017, 8:47:11 AM11/10/17
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Check other species in Nepal not available in efi site. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 11, 2017, 8:11:40 AM11/11/17
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I already checked the link but I could not 
find matching images in the net .


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2018, 1:42:32 PM10/21/18
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Dear Alka JI,

Any opinion please ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:29 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear Members,

Location:  Kharidhunga, Sindhupalchok, Nepal
Date: 6 September 2017
Elevation : 8700 ft.

My first Frtillaria but need correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:30 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

SK810 19 OCT-2017:ID

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:21 PM

To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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Beautiful images. 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:55 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Date: Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:08 AM
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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:51 PM
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:37 AM

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Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:47 PM
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Any clue Mr. Garg ?


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:32 AM

To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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Check other species not available in efi site. 


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Date: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM

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Check other species in Nepal not available in efi site. 
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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 24, 2020, 1:06:42 PM9/24/20
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Caryophyllaceae member, Silene sp. could be S. vulgaris,
Check with that Saroj Ji, 
With regards. 

On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 19:12, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any idea Paradesi Ji ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:29 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Dear Members,

Location:  Kharidhunga, Sindhupalchok, Nepal
Date: 6 September 2017
Elevation : 8700 ft.

My first Frtillaria but need correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:30 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
SK810 19 OCT-2017:ID

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:21 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Beautiful images. 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:55 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Thank you Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:08 AM
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Date: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:51 PM
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:37 AM
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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 11:47 PM
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Any clue Mr. Garg ?


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:32 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Check other species not available in efi site. 


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 7:31 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Check other species in Nepal not available in efi site. 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 6:56 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 26, 2020, 5:28:57 AM9/26/20
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Thanks, Paradesi ji.
Looks different from images at Silene vulgaris
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2020, 5:44:58 AM9/26/20
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Yes Mr. Garg. Looks  different.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 26, 2020, 5:52:39 AM9/26/20
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On checking many species from the checklist along with comparative images at Silene, I found it close to Silene nepalensis Majumdar as per GBIF - Specimen (from Nepal)  Flora of China (2700--5100 m- Basal leaves linear-lanceolate, 3--14 cm × 3--7 mm, midvein prominent, glabrous or subglabrous, base attenuate into petiole, ± connate, apex acuminate; distal leaves sessile, homomorphic with basal leaves) FoC illustration  Checklist of Nepal.
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Bijay Khadka

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Sep 26, 2020, 6:05:27 AM9/26/20
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Yes, it looks more close to S. nepalensis

Regards,
Bijay

J.M. Garg

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Sep 26, 2020, 6:42:08 AM9/26/20
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Thanks, Bijay ji.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2020, 7:40:44 AM9/26/20
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I guess it matches with keys at efn.

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 14, 2021, 3:07:52 AM7/14/21
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A reply from Magnus Linden ji:
' This is a rare low altitude form of Silene thomsonii. This species is rather common in central Nepal from 83°–87°. There are a few scattered records from lower altitude; these are invariably more slender, with paler, smaller and more numerous flowers.'

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 14, 2021, 5:53:53 AM7/14/21
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Thank you Dr. Liden.
Most of the site says this is syn of Silene indica Roxb.but efn has given these as separate ID.
Syn of Silene indica Roxb. is correct ??

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 22, 2021, 4:08:15 AM7/22/21
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Hi, Saroj ji,
Magnus ji is right.
As we have already discussed, it looks different from images at Silene indica
It appears to match with specimens of S.thomsonii as per GBIF- specimen one, two and three.
So we can consider it as an accepted name and not a synonym as listed in the databases.


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 31, 2021, 5:06:33 AM7/31/21
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Thanks, Saroj ji

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On Thu, 22 Jul, 2021, 3:08 pm Saroj Kasaju, <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Mr. Garg. I have agreed to it !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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E00826275 S. thomsonii


E00219866 S. eduardii


E00783717 S. indica (NOT bhutanica)


E00226392 S. edgeworthii


E00223223 S. pseudoindica



E00625368 S. hideakiohbae


SSW 7963 S. holosteifolia


624C S. noctiflora

Dr Magnus Lärksporre Lidén

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