Re: Cauliflorus

[digpati roy]

Rajnagar,Kumarghat,Tripura

Please identify

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Fruits look like Lauraceae !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Yes, Saroj Ji, Lauraceae only, 

Could be Neolitsea sp.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Thanks, Saroj ji and Paradesi ji.

I could not find a match as per comparative images so far in efi site at Neolitsea or Litsea

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

This is Lauraceae, tribe Litseae, genus Lindera. 

This is nearest to L. obtusiloba Blume of China and L. heterophylla Meisn. of East Himalayas (treated as a variety of L. obtusiloba in Flora of China). Flora of China included India while citing distribution of L. obtusiloba. This group need critical revision which includes another closely related species L. cercidifolia Hemsl. 

In my publication on the Indian species of Lindera (Indian Journal of Forestry 39(2): 183 - 195. 2016), I maintained L. heterophylla as a distinct species as I never found trifid leaves (typical of L. obtusiloba) in Indian specimens examined by me from Sikkim, Darjeeling, Nepal and Bhutan, nor did I get any such specimens of the said affinity from North-east India.

The present images show close alliance to the above group but shows major deviation in having the strongly glaucous undersurface of the leaves and much shorter fruiting pedicels seated on a short peduncles. Thus this  plant needs further critical studies to decide whether it represents a hitherto undescribed species.

Kind regards,

Tapas.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Tapas ji, for the valuable diagnosis.

I feel Calyx (?) portion in the fruit appears a bit different as per FOC illustration and GBIF and high resolution specimens in it as below:

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.3912824%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.3912825%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fresearcharchive.calacademy.org%2Fimage_db%2Fbotany%2Fcas0313559.jpg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Rajeev Singh ji.

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From: rajeev singh
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 11:23
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Garg Ji,

The attached images is of Neolitsea species, not Litsea, as per my knowledge this type of Neolitsea is not recorded from India, It may be new record to India or may be novelty, but flower is necessary.  

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Ganesan ji.

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From: Rengaian Ganesan
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 15:36
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Shri Garg

It should be Actinodaphne obovata. Pseudoverticels of leaves and the bunches of fruits on the leafless axils lead me to this name. Recently I had a similar looking collection from Assam and confused with species of Neolitsea because of leave venation and bluish glaucous nature of the leaf. However, I am planning to collect them in flower and identify properly. 

Thank you

With regards

R.Ganesan

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[Tapas Chakrabarty]

I do not think that  this is Actinodaphne obovata, nor Neolitsea, rather Lindera. Male flowers will solve the doubts. I have already indicated the alliance and it is now up to the photographer who can go ahead with further studies and enlighten us.

[J.M. Garg]

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From: digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 16:17
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus

To: tcha...@gmail.com <tcha...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

If it is Lindera,then what is the binomial name of it ?

What more photographs do you want to establish this species ?

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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[J.M. Garg]

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From: digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in>

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 16:26
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus
To: tcha...@gmail.com <tcha...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

If you want, I can collect specimens.

I wish to know what is the full name of this Lindera species ?

The leaves are not matching with Actinodaphne obovata.

This is collected from deep forest of Tripura near Pecharthal,North Tripura.

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty

<tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you collect specimens?

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:17 PM digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

If it is Lindera,then what is the binomial name of it ?

What more photographs do you want to establish this species ?

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:03 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty

<tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Tapas Chakrabarty <tcha...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 16:41
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus
To: dp...@yahoo.co.in <dp...@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Please read my comments carefully. I have clearly indicated that it may be a new species of Lindera. Please collect specimens and also try to collect male flowers (at least 6 - 8 twigs for preparing herbarium specimens), note down location with GPS. Then prepare a description, line drawing and photo plates. Then only the actual status can be ascertained.

Best regards.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:26 PM digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

If you want, I can collect specimens.

I wish to know what is the full name of this Lindera species ?

The leaves are not matching with Actinodaphne obovata.

This is collected from deep forest of Tripura near Pecharthal,North Tripura.

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty

<tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you collect specimens?

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:17 PM digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

If it is Lindera,then what is the binomial name of it ?

What more photographs do you want to establish this species ?

Thank you

Digpati Roy

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:03 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty

<tcha...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

I also tried but did not find any Lindernia matching to this. It could be a new species of Lindernia as indicated by Tapas da !

Thank you

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Small correction Saroj Ji, not Lindernia, Lindera only,

I think you know both, 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes Paradesi ji !

Typo.

Thank  you

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rajeev Singh ji. 

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From: rajeev singh <>
Date: Mon 26 Aug, 2019, 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Cauliflorus
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Yes, It is Actinodaphne obovata (Nees) Blume

[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess Rajeev ji is correct!

Actinodaphne obovata (Nees) Blume

 4608 × 3456  

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Among so much dispute, please also look Persea.

[J.M. Garg]

After going through high resolution specimens at GBIF and other links as below, I am convinced of this being Actinodaphne obovata:

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441303225037zXTaXGMLp7f2pXH4

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1790054%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1790024%2Fformat%2Flarge

http://www.asianplant.net/Lauraceae/Actinodaphne_obovata.htm

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Actinodaphne_obovata

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From: digpati roy <dp...@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 10:37
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju