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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 2:53:56 PM10/19/23
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Please ID wild climber, with kind regards, Sam.

Location: bloomed near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki Kerala INDIA

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 09SEP2023, 03.20pm

Habitat: wild moisture evergreen misty sloppy alpine 

Plant habit: climbing herb, branches, weak cylindrical stem 07mm base circumference, velvety sprouts, perennial

Height: 02 meters

Leaves: opposite heart shaped acute soft smooth leathery glossy, size upto: 10×7cm

Flower: axillary buds, globular petal, diameter:22mm, greenish yellow, strange smell

Fruit: lengthy cone shaped paired, green into purple to brown

Seed: 

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 2:55:32 PM10/19/23
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 3:04:09 PM10/19/23
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, 12:27 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 3:06:39 PM10/19/23
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 3:12:40 PM10/19/23
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 19, 2023, 3:25:12 PM10/19/23
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Please note flower opened manually.
Fruit size:20x1.2cm.
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M.Swamy

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Oct 20, 2023, 12:17:35 AM10/20/23
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Apocyanaceae member !

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 20, 2023, 12:59:33 AM10/20/23
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Dear Mahadeswara ji,
Thank you very much for the family identification of my plant.
The plant having white sticky latex also.  As I mentioned earlier, if it manually open the flower to see the inside, petal will wilt immediately.
With kind regards, Sam.

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 20, 2023, 4:23:16 AM10/20/23
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A correction: extra axillary umbel inflorescence, clustered

vip...@gmail.com

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Oct 21, 2023, 2:15:42 AM10/21/23
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My first impression is leaning towards Heterostemma sp. [Apocynaceae].

Best wishes, Viplav

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2023, 3:02:28 AM10/21/23
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Heterostemma beddomei (Hook.fil.) Swarupan. & Mangaly Syn : Oianthus beddomei Hook.fil.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2023, 3:02:45 AM10/21/23
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 21, 2023, 5:25:54 AM10/21/23
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Yes, it is Heterostemma sp.  Thank you very much dear Viplav ji and Arsha ji for Genus id of my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 21, 2023, 5:28:03 AM10/21/23
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Dear Saroj ji,
Yes, it is very close to Heterostemma beddomei  thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2023, 12:21:19 PM10/21/23
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Exact match or just close ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 21, 2023, 2:44:52 PM10/21/23
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Dear Saroj ji,
I think it's matching, only colour variation, thank you very much for providing ID link, with kind regards, Sam.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 22, 2023, 12:17:54 PM10/22/23
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OK Sam !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

vip...@gmail.com

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Oct 23, 2023, 1:26:50 AM10/23/23
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Also known to occur in Idukki district is Heterostemma vasudevanii.

Hope somebody more familiar with this genus in Kerala can ascertain the species.

Best wishes, Viplav
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 23, 2023, 2:32:54 AM10/23/23
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 23, 2023, 6:15:16 AM10/23/23
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Thank you very much dear Viplav ji and Saroj ji for identification of my plant and providing ID link, with kind regards, Sam.

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 25, 2023, 5:22:06 AM10/25/23
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Dear All,
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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Oct 25, 2023, 5:25:33 AM10/25/23
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Base stem rough silverish puffed ridges 01 inch base diameter.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 1, 2023, 7:45:18 AM11/1/23
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Apocyanaceae member !- from Mahadeswara ji 

Thank you very much for the family identification of my plant.
The plant having white sticky latex also.  As I mentioned earlier, if it manually open the flower to see the inside, petal will wilt immediately.

With kind regards, Sam. 

A correction: extra axillary umbel inflorescence, clustered- from Sam ji 

My first impression is leaning towards Heterostemma sp. [Apocynaceae].

Best wishes, Viplav 

Heterostemma beddomei (Hook.fil.) Swarupan. & Mangaly Syn : Oianthus beddomei Hook.fil.- from Saroj ji 
https://rheedea.in/storages/submission/file/1571168183.pdf- from Saroj ji

Yes, it is Heterostemma sp. Thank you very much dear Viplav ji and Arsha ji for Genus id of my plant, with kind regards, Sam. 

Yes, it is very close to Heterostemma beddomei  thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam. 

Exact match or just close ?
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju 

I think it's matching, only colour variation, thank you very much for providing ID link, with kind regards, Sam. 

Also known to occur in Idukki district is Heterostemma vasudevanii.
Hope somebody more familiar with this genus in Kerala can ascertain the species.

Best wishes, Viplav 

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Nov 1, 2023, 9:11:50 AM11/1/23
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Dear Garg ji,
Thank you very much for forwarding my request for identification, with kind regards, Sam.

J.M. Garg

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Nov 9, 2023, 7:11:29 AM11/9/23
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Girish Kumar

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Nov 9, 2023, 12:16:37 PM11/9/23
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Any relationship with Erythropalum……….?

Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Nov 9, 2023, 1:48:40 PM11/9/23
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Dear Girish ji,
It is Heterostemma spp.  
Thank you, Sam.

Girish Kumar

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Nov 9, 2023, 5:29:59 PM11/9/23
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Thanks for the update. 

J.M. Garg

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Nov 27, 2023, 4:31:59 AM11/27/23
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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 17:14
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:456969] 496 ID wild climber
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 7, 2023, 11:42:37 PM12/7/23
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Thanks a lot, Navendu ji

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 19:13
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:456969] 496 ID wild climber
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I have not seen this species but it seems to match quite well with the illustration of Heterostemma beddomei  (except the corona),  which is designated as lectotype in the Phytotaxa paper mentioned in one of the emails in this thread.

Navendu

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Any idea about the species, Navendu ji?

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Sam Kuzhalanattu

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Dec 8, 2023, 1:39:14 AM12/8/23
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Dear Navendu ji,
Thank you very much for sharing brief description about my plant's ID, with kind regards, Sam.
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