235 ID wild plant Commelina

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Members,

Please ID wild plant, a combo of 03 Commelina sps. flowers close to Dictyospermum montanum, leaves close to Murdannia japonica and dry fruits and seeds (nice) close to Murdannia loriformis. With kind regards, Sam.

Location: near Vannappuram Thodupuzha Idukki District Kerala 685607

Altitude: 1500fsl

Flower date: 14.12.2021, 08.55am

Habitat: wild, moisture, shady, streamside, giant rock-stone

Plant habit: erect, no stem, basal rosette on 90° steep giant rock-stone, perennial

Height: 03cm

Leaves: rosette, alternate, oblong, apex, smooth, soft, fleshy 01mm thickness, wavy margins, size:08×02 inches

Flower: axillary, racemose, 03 petals, diameter:10mm, white, non fragrant

Fruit: capsule green into black size:9×2.5mm

Seed: black, numerous, rigid, granular

Camera: mobile Samsung Galaxy A21s

[Saroj Kasaju]

Murdannia !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Murdannia loriformis (Hask.) Rolla Rao & Kammathy may be close !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Not Murdannia loriformis (Hask.) Rolla Rao & Kammathy
dear Saroj ji, peduncle is differ only 03cm, and no leaves images,  with kind regards, Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Yes, looks different from Murdannia loriformis

Leaves would have helped.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Yes, looks different from Murdannia loriformis

Leaves would have helped.

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 22:20
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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Yes, looks different from Murdannia loriformis

Leaves would have helped.

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 22:28
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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Thank you very much dear Garg ji, for forwarding my ID request, with kind regards, Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Yes, looks different from Murdannia loriformis

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Thank you dear Garg ji, for forwarding my ID request, with kind regards, Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Manudev ji

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From: manudev madhavan <>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan, 2022, 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:410156] 235 ID wild plant Commelina
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Gargji,

This could be Murdannia fadeniana Nampy & Joby

regards

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Dr. Manudev K.M.

Assistant Professor,

Centre for Postgraduate Studies & Research Department of Botany, 

St. Joseph's College (Autonomous), Devagiri,

Medical College P.O., Kozhikode District, Kerala- 673 008

Mob: 9496470738

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Great dear Manudev ji, thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Garg ji, Saroj ji, Manudev ji, all Members,

Thank you very much for ID my plant, with kind regards, Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Manudev ji, for the id.

Yes, appears to match with the publication at 

https://www.ville-ge.ch/cjb/publications/cando581/candollea58-1_79-82.pdf

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[mayur nandikar]

Dear Sam ji,

If you are going to visit this place again, please try to observe how the seeds are arranged. I still remember a specimen from Idukki housed at Madras Herbarium I have identified as Murdannia glauca.Its polymorphic species and number of stamens often varies from 2 to 3, but uniseriate seed arrangement make it different from others. 

sincerely, 

Mayur

 

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Mayur ji,

Thanks for your mail, interesting to know the seed arrangements, I am sure and ready to help in this regard.  Please tell me how I can collect it, means after explosion of capsule or just before explotion. With kind regards, Sam.

[mayur nandikar]

Dear Sam ji, 

Thank you for your positive response. I need some immature capsules preserved in alcohol or formaldehyde, an entire specimen (if there are enough individuals) and few likely to be mature capsules. This will help to understand the plants for its correct ID. 

sincerely, 

Mayur

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Mayur ji

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Garg ji,

Today I have been there and collected immature capsules, with kind regards, Sam.

[J.M. Garg]

Can you post the seed arrangements?

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Garg ji,

I am sent it to Maruthi, and it is on the way.

With kind regards, Sam.

[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Garg ji,

I am sent it to Mayur ji, and it is on the way.

With kind regards, Sam

[J.M. Garg]

Maybe Mayur ji confirms on its examination.

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[J.M. Garg]

Any further news, Mayur ji?

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 20:24, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 20:24, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[mayur nandikar]

Dear all, 

Thank you for the wet preserved capsules of Murdannia fadeniana. 

I have dissected all the capsules which you have sent. Seeds are bi-seriate, 18 to 27 per capsule and matches with the protologue (except the seed number 30 to 45 per capsule) of Murdannia fadeniana. 

Sincerely, 

Mayur  

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 3:54 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Mayur ji,

Could you check it?

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 21:43, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Mayur ji.
Hope you are doing well and not having fever etc. now.

I also just recovered and joined office this week.

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On Thu, 27 Jan, 2022, 9:36 pm mayur nandikar, <mnan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you for your mail and reminder Garg ji. 

I have been out of the office due to COVID-19, I am in isolation. As the parcel reaches the office, it will probably dissect by the next month only. 

Slowly recovering now, weakness is still there. 

I heard from Sam ji today that he also got infected with COVID-19. I wish for his speedy recovery. For some people it is really painful.  

sincerely, 

Mayur

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Mayur ji

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Thank you very much dear Mayur ji for sharing the information, with kind regards, Sam.