Ipomoea acanthocarpa : For Validation : Maharashtra Nature Park, Mumbai : 10OCT19 : AK-11

[Aarti S. Khale]

With the current discussion going on about this Species, I am posting my pictures.

Taken in the first week of November in 2014, at MNP. 

These were identified earlier by Ron Kushner Ji as Ipomoea obscura.

For validation please. 

Aarti

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Same . 100 % . 

Leaves are cordate , acute tipped . 

It has been treated as Ipomoea obscura mistakenly , you can find online . But it is different from I .obscura in leaf.....red veins , basal notch very wide , corolla entirely different in limb , tube , midpetaline bands ,, calyx larger and outers reticulated , , stem tuberculated ,, capsule bigger ,, seeds hairy ,, lifespan short annual . 

Interesting part is , there is an  African  species similar to and treated as I .obscura with longer elongated linear hairy calyx lobes , very very dissimilar to Asian species . Ron himself advocates in ptting lot of emphasis in calyx and I  follow it too ......in this case he chose to abide by some 50+ years old flora . 

Any way , in a reply to a facebook post he has accepted Ipomoea acanthocarpa as ID to the flower in posts your and mine  . 

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[dr.rakesh Singh]

Same . 100 % . 

Leaves are cordate , acute tipped . 

It has been treated as Ipomoea obscura mistakenly , you can find online . But it is different from I .obscura in leaf.....red veins , basal notch very wide , corolla entirely different in limb , tube , midpetaline bands ,, calyx larger and outers reticulated , , stem tuberculated ,, capsule bigger ,, seeds hairy ,, lifespan short annual . 

Interesting part is , there is an  African  species similar to and treated as I .obscura with longer elongated linear hairy calyx lobes , very very dissimilar to Asian species . Ron himself advocates in ptting lot of emphasis in calyx and I  follow it too ......in this case he chose to abide by some 50+ years old flora . 

Any way , in a reply to a facebook post he has accepted Ipomoea acanthocarpa as ID to the flower in posts your and mine  . 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:16 PM Aarti S. Khale <aarti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Rakesh Ji, 

You sent this reply to me, not on the group. 

Can you please copy on our group?

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 16:46 dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rake...@gmail.com> wrote:

One and same ! 

Ipomoea acanthocarpa . 

No doubt about it . 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 13:18 Aarti S. Khale <aarti...@gmail.com> wrote:

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Same . 100 % . 

Leaves are cordate , acute tipped . 

It has been treated as Ipomoea obscura mistakenly , you can find online . But it is different from I .obscura in leaf.....red veins , basal notch very wide , corolla entirely different in limb , tube , midpetaline bands ,, calyx larger and outers reticulated , , stem tuberculated ,, capsule bigger ,, seeds hairy ,, lifespan short annual . 

Interesting part is , there is an  African  species similar to and treated as I .obscura with longer elongated linear hairy calyx lobes , very very dissimilar to Asian species . Ron himself advocates in ptting lot of emphasis in calyx and I  follow it too ......in this case he chose to abide by some 50+ years old flora . 

Any way , in a reply to a facebook post he has accepted Ipomoea acanthocarpa as ID to the flower in posts your and mine  . 

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Rakesh Ji,

Thanks for validating my post.

Regards,

Aarti

[ushadi]

AArti

what is MNP

Rakesh

who is Ron

you are talking shorthand

some of us are not on the fb

Regards

Ushadi

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[dr.rakesh Singh]

MNP =Maharastra Nature Park 

Ron (Kushner) = Ron Convolvulaceae , international convolvulaceae expert .Expert and member in our group . 

[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di, MNP is Maharashtra Nature Park in Mumbai, which is already mentioned in the subject line.

You probably missed it.

Regards,

Aarti

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[ushadi]

Thanks Rakesh and AArti

ROn

yes I recall him now

Aarti

yes.... gift of cataract surgery 

I wear these skinny reading glasses now and

on bing the screen flickers (google had those red boxes)

hurts eyes

so I get to the meat of the thread

in so doing missed the top

what to do 😎

Regards

Ushadi

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,

Not a problem.

Get well soon.

Regards,

Aarti

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