DV :: 31 JUL 12 - 1218 :: Cirsium ¿ species ? at Auli

[Dinesh Valke]

31 JUL 12 Auli ... 8750 - 9000 ft

Dear friends, ID please. Habitat: sloping meadow Habit: erect herb about 1 - 2 m, stems and leaves - heavily armed ... missed flowering period

Regards. Dinesh

[Gurcharan Singh]

Cirsium falconeri I hope

Very common at high altitudes in Western Himalayas.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much, Gurcharan ji.
Regards.
Dinesh

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.

Sorry, I have doubts about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Chadwell ji

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Cirsium falconeri ?

Heads smaller, erect, inner involucre bracts with short somewhat recurved spines suggest C. verutum

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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 8:59:15 AM UTC+5:30 JM Garg wrote:

Thanks,  Chadwell ji

On 16 Dec 2016 4:00 am, "chrischa...@btinternet.com" <chrischa...@btinternet.com> wrote:

I was prompted to check postings of Cirsium falconeri on eFI as I mentioned the species in images of the habitat of Inula royleana I have just posted.

Sorry, I have doubts about whether this is C.falconeri, which I shall be posting images of from Kashmir.  Shall come back to these images and comment further.  Must try to stick to concentrating on Inulas FIRST!   But attention should always be drawn to possible, probable or definite misidentifications, at the earliest opportunity.

On Monday, August 13, 2012 at 5:48:26 PM UTC+1, Dinesh Valke wrote:

31 JUL 12 Auli ... 8750 - 9000 ft

Dear friends, ID please. Habitat: sloping meadow Habit: erect herb about 1 - 2 m, stems and leaves - heavily armed ... missed flowering period

Regards. Dinesh

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Cirsium falconeri ?

Heads smaller, erect, inner involucre bracts with short somewhat recurved spines suggest C. verutum

Group discussion at

DV :: 31 JUL 12 - 1218 :: Cirsium ¿ species ? at Auli (google.com)

[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Gurcharan ji for resurfacing this post, and for suggesting the ID.

Revised my notes at flickr.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

I think it is more closer to images and details at Cirsium argyracanthum DC. 

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[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Garg ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

 I think Cirsium verutum (D.Don) Spreng. as per images and keys herein.  

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I think you are right Garg ji.

[J.M. Garg]

I think Cirsium wallichii as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I think C. falconeri again

[J.M. Garg]

Cirsium wallichii is highly variable as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum

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[J.M. Garg]

Cirsium wallichii is highly variable as per discussions at Confusion between Circium argyracanthum and C. verutum

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[J.M. Garg]

Pl. also see GBIF specimen- one and two, matching with it.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji.

Regards.

Dinesh