Crinum pratense (syn. of C. lorifolium) FOR VALIDATION :: 22 JUN 13 :: along Saphale road

[Dinesh Valke]

Saphale road  off Varai Naka, along NH8 Date: June 22, 2013 ... Altitude: about 20 m (65 ft) asl

Crinum ¿ pratense ?   This could be Crinum pratense (syn. of Crinum lorifolium) - the flowers look to be sessile or subsessile. Other aspects I am not able to know. I hope the above pictures help in getting to the ID. C. pratense is known to be common in Konkan -- however (at the time of writing this post), there are almost no pictures of it on internet other than the 6 pictures in eFI (2 from Garg ji, and 4 from Alka Khare ji).

Regards. Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Thanks, Manoj ji

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From: manoj lekhak <>
Date: Mon 27 Apr, 2020, 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:348614] Crinum pratense (syn. of C. lorifolium) FOR VALIDATION :: 22 JUN 13 :: along Saphale road
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Sir,

Please ask Mr. Valke if the leaves are glaucous?

I would like to have the close of leaves to know the texture.

regards

manoj

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Gore ji

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From: Ramchandra Gore <>
Date: Mon 27 Apr, 2020, 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:348614] Crinum pratense (syn. of C. lorifolium) FOR VALIDATION :: 22 JUN 13 :: along Saphale road
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Crinum lorifolium

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks very much, Garg ji.

Thanks very much, Ramchandra Gore ji.

Thank you very much Manoj Lekhak ji ... here, I am attaching two cropped versions of one of the above posted pictures, to get closer to one of the leaves. Hope it helps you in your analysis.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dinesh ji.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Manoj ji.

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 21:13, manoj lekhak <mle...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dinesh Ji and Garg Ji,

It is very difficult to identify Crinums on account of high variation in their morphology.

It looks like C. lorifolium but none of you mentions if the leaves are glaucous.

I am not sure about the identity of these images.

regards

Manoj

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dinesh ji.

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you very very much Manoj ji, for your thoughts.

Geographically, C. lorifolium and C. amoenum are distributed in plains of Thane district

Ruling out C. amoenum as it is relatively much wider and taller than the posted plant.

C. lorifolium fits what is seen in posted plant, especially we see sessile or subsessile flowers.

Another distant possibility is C. woodrowii - ruled out, as it has pedicellate flowers.

I am inclined to think of Crinum lorifolia.

Regards.

Dinesh

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:13 PM manoj lekhak <mle...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Dinesh Ji and Garg Ji,

It is very difficult to identify Crinums on account of high variation in their morphology.

It looks like C. lorifolium but none of you mentions if the leaves are glaucous.

I am not sure about the identity of these images.

regards

Manoj