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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 14, 2018, 12:46:39 PM10/14/18
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Dear Members,

Location:  Shivapuri National Park,Nepal 
Date: 24 August 2018
Elevation:6500 ft.
Habit : Wild    

Leptodermis ?? Looks rather different. Plant is dangling from 
a forest wall..

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 16, 2018, 12:20:00 PM10/16/18
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Are petals and sepals and leaves matching? 

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 17, 2018, 1:41:56 PM10/17/18
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Just my guess but could be some other .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Oct 21, 2018, 4:11:37 AM10/21/18
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At first glance looks close. 

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 21, 2018, 5:45:20 AM10/21/18
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himalayan leptodermis is popular in the west but all pictures i see now on the net are pinkish flowers
and corolla tube seems longer

no body has shown dangling  habit for this plant, ie hanging basket growth


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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2018, 6:41:37 AM10/21/18
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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Still could not finalize ID yet.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 21, 2018, 12:20:23 PM10/21/18
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Yes Ushadi confusion is there .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 23, 2018, 6:33:35 AM10/23/18
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Dear Mr. Garg,

One of my friend suggested it as Leptodermis kumaonensis Parker but 
I am not convinced.

Could it be Leptodermis lanceolata Wall  ??



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

D.S Rawat

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Oct 23, 2018, 7:21:41 AM10/23/18
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Three species are given in Osmaston 1927 (A Forest Flora for Kumaon) as differentiated as:
1A. Corolla glabrous outside ..................................................................L. lanceolata
1B. Corolla pubescent outside (minutely hairy).................
       2A. Leaves exceeding 5 cms in length, lateral nerves 6-10 pairs ...... L. kumaonensis
       2B. Leaves not exceeding 5 cms, lateral nerves 406 pairs ................ L. riparia

DSRawat Pantnagar

D.S Rawat

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Oct 23, 2018, 10:34:37 AM10/23/18
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In keys:
2b. lateral nerves 4-6 pairs...

DSRawat


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J.M. Garg

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Oct 23, 2018, 10:37:37 AM10/23/18
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Marking a copy to the poster.
Thanks, Rawat ji 

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 23, 2018, 11:13:20 AM10/23/18
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Thanks, Rawat ji, 
Going by these keys it appears close to L. riparia, but I think it is not listed in Checklist of Nepal.
Also similar images identified earlier as Leptodermis kumaonensis as per https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/leptodermis/leptodermis-kumaonensis


On Tue 23 Oct, 2018, 4:51 PM D.S Rawat, <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 23, 2018, 11:46:03 AM10/23/18
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Leptodermis kumaonensis as suggested 
by a friend ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 22, 2018, 12:22:52 PM11/22/18
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ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 6, 2020, 6:57:56 AM3/6/20
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Still awaiting for validation !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 11, 2020, 6:40:45 AM9/11/20
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POWO, CoL and GBIF mentioned about the distribution of  L.riparia in the western
Nepal but does not look like matching as my sp. is not a erect shrub but rather
scandent/ dangling type.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Sep 11, 2020, 10:57:32 AM9/11/20
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Resembles kumaonensis Saroj Ji, 
But check with complete profiles, 
With Regards.


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Your opinion Paradesi Ji !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 10:31 PM
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Dear Members,

Location:  Shivapuri National Park,Nepal 
Date: 24 August 2018
Elevation:6500 ft.
Habit : Wild    

Leptodermis ?? Looks rather different. Plant is dangling from 
a forest wall..

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:04 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Are petals and sepals and leaves matching? 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:26 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Just my guess but could be some other .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:56 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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At first glance looks close. 


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From: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 3:30 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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himalayan leptodermis is popular in the west but all pictures i see now on the net are pinkish flowers
and corolla tube seems longer

no body has shown dangling  habit for this plant, ie hanging basket growth


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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Still could not finalize ID yet.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:05 PM
To: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Yes Ushadi confusion is there .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:18 PM
To: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Dear Mr. Garg,

One of my friend suggested it as Leptodermis kumaonensis Parker but 
I am not convinced.

Could it be Leptodermis lanceolata Wall  ??



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM
To: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Thanks, Rawat ji, 
Going by these keys it appears close to L. riparia, but I think it is not listed in Checklist of Nepal.
Also similar images identified earlier as Leptodermis kumaonensis as per https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/leptodermis/leptodermis-kumaonensis


On Tue 23 Oct, 2018, 4:51 PM D.S Rawat, <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
Three species are given in Osmaston 1927 (A Forest Flora for Kumaon) as differentiated as:
1A. Corolla glabrous outside ..................................................................L. lanceolata
1B. Corolla pubescent outside (minutely hairy).................
       2A. Leaves exceeding 5 cms in length, lateral nerves 6-10 pairs ...... L. kumaonensis
       2B. Leaves not exceeding 5 cms, lateral nerves 406 pairs ................ L. riparia

DSRawat Pantnagar

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:30 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Leptodermis kumaonensis as suggested 
by a friend ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:07 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:42 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Still awaiting for validation !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:25 PM
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 11, 2020, 10:59:57 AM9/11/20
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I have clicked kumaonensis many times which are erect shrub but
this one is scandent dangling from forest wall. So confused.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 16, 2020, 2:55:57 AM9/16/20
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I will go for L. riparia as per keys submitted by Rawat ji, in this thread.
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JM Garg

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Sep 20, 2020, 2:40:22 AM9/20/20
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Hi, G S Rawat ji,
May I request you to pl. also confirm this as Leptodermis riparia as per your publication:
Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>


Are petals and sepals and leaves matching? 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:26 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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Just my guess but could be some other .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:56 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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At first glance looks close. 


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Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 3:30 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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himalayan leptodermis is popular in the west but all pictures i see now on the net are pinkish flowers
and corolla tube seems longer

no body has shown dangling  habit for this plant, ie hanging basket growth


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Still could not finalize ID yet.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 10:05 PM
To: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>


Yes Ushadi confusion is there .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:18 PM
To: Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>


Dear Mr. Garg,

One of my friend suggested it as Leptodermis kumaonensis Parker but 
I am not convinced.

Could it be Leptodermis lanceolata Wall  ??



Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM
To: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Thanks, Rawat ji, 
Going by these keys it appears close to L. riparia, but I think it is not listed in Checklist of Nepal.
Also similar images identified earlier as Leptodermis kumaonensis as per https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/leptodermis/leptodermis-kumaonensis


On Tue 23 Oct, 2018, 4:51 PM D.S Rawat, <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:
Three species are given in Osmaston 1927 (A Forest Flora for Kumaon) as differentiated as:
1A. Corolla glabrous outside ..................................................................L. lanceolata
1B. Corolla pubescent outside (minutely hairy).................
       2A. Leaves exceeding 5 cms in length, lateral nerves 6-10 pairs ...... L. kumaonensis
       2B. Leaves not exceeding 5 cms, lateral nerves 406 pairs ................ L. riparia

DSRawat Pantnagar

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:30 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Leptodermis kumaonensis as suggested 
by a friend ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:07 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


ID pending !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:42 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Still awaiting for validation !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:25 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


POWO, CoL and GBIF mentioned about the distribution of  L.riparia in the western
Nepal but does not look like matching as my sp. is not a erect shrub but rather
scandent/ dangling type.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju





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J.M. Garg

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Sep 21, 2020, 12:02:02 PM9/21/20
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This is Leptodermis kumaonensis R.Parker as per keys from Flora of Bhutan at Leptodermis and as per FoC illustration.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 15:38, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, G S Rawat ji,
May I request you to pl. also confirm this as Leptodermis riparia as per your publication:
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Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 3:40:47 AM9/23/20
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Enclosing herbarium sp. and sketches received from Natioal Herbarium, Nepal.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 3:41:50 AM9/23/20
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Please ignore mail.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 3:43:09 AM9/23/20
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Enclosing herbarium sp. and sketches received from Natioal Herbarium, Nepal.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2020, 2:09:01 AM9/25/20
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Which book ?
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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 25, 2020, 6:39:04 AM9/25/20
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Flora of China!
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 12, 2021, 4:06:25 AM7/12/21
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Dear Mr. Garg,
According to the keys given in efi it cannot be L. kumaonensis but it is found listed in this category 
in efi site! As per keys at link: Leptodermis kumaonensis has corolla pubescent outside and Leptodermis lanceolata has corolla glabrous outside;
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 18, 2021, 11:53:19 AM7/18/21
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I see corolla pubescent outside in your posted images. 
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J.M. Garg

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Jul 19, 2021, 1:10:54 PM7/19/21
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This will also be Leptodermis stapfiana as in your recent post. 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


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