Viola sylvatica from Kashmir and Name confusion could it be V. reichenbachiana ?-GS17102020-6

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 17, 2020, 1:19:39 PM10/17/20
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Viola sylvatica Fr. ex Hartman, 1841, described in Flora of India Page 376, 1996, earlier described in FBI as V. canina var. sylvatica, described as close to V. odorata (sepals rounded at tip) in acute to acuminate sepal tips, and straight curved spur (straight  in V. odorata).
Strangely the name does not appear in any recognised databases (only TPL gives as ambiguous name), although Google search gives several results
http://www.atlasbotani.eu/index.php?detail&cislo=3819 (gives as synonym of Viola reichenbachiana Bor.)

But Flora of India describes both as distinct species

Please help in solving confusion









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J.M. Garg

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Oct 19, 2020, 12:05:12 PM10/19/20
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Hi, Singh ji,
Viola sylvatica Fr. ex Hartman, 1841 is properly mentioned in IPNI, but POWO changes its name to Viola silvatica Fr. ex C.Hartm. as does Catalogue of Life, with no distribution in India.
Your plant appears similar to existing species in our database at Viola

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 19, 2020, 12:51:41 PM10/19/20
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That is why I suggested Viola reichenbachiana, V. sylvestris is mentioned synonym of both databases mentioned by you and in eFlora of Pakistan of Viola reichenbachiana. My Plant has to be belonging to one of the two, and if it is not V. riviniana, it has to be V. reichenbachiana. That is what I mentioned in my post. eFlora of Pakistan lists all species from Kashmir, and it does list V. reichenbachiana.  Flora of India also reports its distribution in Kashmir.





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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 19, 2020, 12:53:34 PM10/19/20
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That is why I suggested Viola reichenbachiana, V. sylvestris is mentioned synonym of both species in databases mentioned by you and in eFlora of Pakistan of Viola reichenbachiana. My Plant has to be belonging to one of the two, and if it is not V. riviniana, it has to be V. reichenbachiana. That is what I mentioned in my post. eFlora of Pakistan lists all species from Kashmir, and it does list V. reichenbachiana.  Flora of India also reports its distribution in Kashmir.




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J.M. Garg

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Oct 21, 2020, 12:26:48 PM10/21/20
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Hi, Singh ji,
I find it close to Viola canescens Wall. as per images and details herein and as per comparative images at Viola

I could not follow what is the connection between Viola sylvatica Fr. ex Hartman and V. sylvestris ?
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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 22, 2020, 1:20:28 AM10/22/20
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A hidden connection
1. eFlora of Pakistan which includes all plants from Kashmir, lists V. sylvestris Lam. as synonym of V. reichenbachiana Jord. ex Bor., but totally ignores V. sylvatica of BSI Flora of India (or Viola canina var. sylvatica of FBI).
2. Catalogue of Life treats both V. silvatica Fr. ex Hartm and V. sylvestris Lam. (Ambiguous synonym) of V. riviniana Rchb.
3. Catalogue of life also treats V. sylvestris Lam. (Ambiguous synonym) of V. reichenbachiana also

However, it may not be V. canescens (in which plants are stemless, canescent) nor V. rechenbachiana.
Perhaps we may find a better match
I will upload both separately for your consideration.


 
 




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J.M. Garg

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Oct 22, 2020, 1:41:18 AM10/22/20
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Thanks, Singh ji
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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 22, 2020, 3:06:27 AM10/22/20
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Looking at style and stigma, it may after all be V. canescens only, as suggested by you.





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J.M. Garg

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Oct 22, 2020, 4:04:17 AM10/22/20
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Thanks, Singh ji

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