Flora of Chakrata: Acer for id from Budher caves road

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Nidhan Singh

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Sep 21, 2012, 12:56:37 PM9/21/12
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Dear All,

This Acer sp. was shot from Chakrata-Tinuni Motor Marg while going to Budher caves...in May 2012...hope to get specific id...

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Dr. Nidhan Singh
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:27:16 PM9/21/12
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I hope Acer acuminatum

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Umeshkumar Tiwari

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:56:49 PM9/21/12
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Leaves lobes are not having any serration, so i think it is not acuminatum.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 21, 2012, 7:43:24 PM9/21/12
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Thanks Tiwari ji for pointing out
How about A. caesium??


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

Umeshkumar Tiwari

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Sep 22, 2012, 1:06:10 AM9/22/12
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Dear Sir,
This could be Acer lobelii subsp. pictum (Thunb.) Wesm. Syn: Acer pictum, Thunb..
A. caesium also have serrations on lobes.
http://plants.jstor.org/specimen/k000640776

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Sep 30, 2012, 2:07:04 AM9/30/12
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

 I hope Acer acuminatum

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

 Leaves lobes are not having any serration, so i think it is not acuminatum.- from Umesh ji.

 Thanks Tiwari ji for pointing out

How about A. caesium??
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

 This could be Acer lobelii subsp. pictum (Thunb.) Wesm. Syn: Acer pictum, Thunb..

A. caesium also have serrations on lobes.
http://plants.jstor.org/specimen/k000640776

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Oct 7, 2012, 4:09:28 AM10/7/12
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I hope Acer acuminatum

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Leaves lobes are not having any serration, so i think it is not acuminatum.- from Umesh ji.

Thanks Tiwari ji for pointing out

How about A. caesium??
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh

This could be Acer lobelii subsp. pictum (Thunb.) Wesm. Syn: Acer pictum, Thunb..

A. caesium also have serrations on lobes.



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Date: 21 September 2012 22:26
Subject: [efloraofindia:131930] Flora of Chakrata: Acer for id from Budher caves road
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 23, 2014, 1:57:49 AM1/23/14
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 23, 2014, 2:11:03 AM1/23/14
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Strangely Acer pictum Thunb. is a syn. of Synonym of Kalopanax septemlobus (Thunb.) Koidz. (In Araliaceae) as per GRIn (updated in May 2013).
 
Acer lobelii subsp. pictum (Thunb.) Wesm. is a synonym of Kalopanax septemlobus (Thunb.) Koidz. as per The Plant List, while it shows Acer pictum Thunb. as an accepted name in Sapindaceae.

J.M. Garg

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Jan 29, 2014, 9:27:19 AM1/29/14
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Forwarding it for confirmation as Kalopanax septemlobus (Thunb.) Koidz. as per GRIN or otherwise.

D.S Rawat

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Jan 29, 2014, 11:03:53 PM1/29/14
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To me it is more closer to Acer caesium Wallich ex Brandis than any other species. Shape of samara also resemble to A.caesium.
It is certain that it is not Kalopanax septemlobus of Araliaceae which is not known in Uttarakhand. 
DSRawat Pantnagar

manoj chandran

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Feb 2, 2014, 9:01:56 AM2/2/14
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Kindly also check Acer sterculaceum


On Friday, September 21, 2012 10:26:59 PM UTC+5:30, Nidhan Singh wrote:

J.M. Garg

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Jul 30, 2020, 7:02:32 AM7/30/20
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This will be A. sterculiaceum as per keys and illustrations in pdf in Flora of Nepal. It was also suggested by Manoj Chandran ji.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 30, 2020, 7:31:32 AM7/30/20
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I guess correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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