[efloraofindia:35086] Another plant from Arunachal Pradesh for identification pl.
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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary
May 17, 2010, 7:27:23 PM5/17/10
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Dear all,
Attaching another herb collected from West Siang district of Arunachal Pradesh for identification.
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tanay bose
May 18, 2010, 12:21:30 AM5/18/10
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Some primitive group of plant , i hope from the flower morphology but have never seen it.
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May 19, 2010, 3:10:16 AM5/19/10
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I think this should be Pentasachme (Asclepediaceae)
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> Some primitive group of plant , i hope from the flower morphology but have
> never seen it.
> tanay
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> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary <
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> > Attaching another herb collected from West Siang district of Arunachal
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On May 18, 9:21 am, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some primitive group of plant , i hope from the flower morphology but have
> never seen it.
> tanay
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tanay bose
May 19, 2010, 7:34:36 AM5/19/10
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Dear Navendu Ji,
Pentasachme sp has long linear leaves with acute apex but this plant has small roundish leaf with obtuse apex. The most fascinating point of the flower is that it lacks calyx hence perianth is present !!! Pentasachme does not lack calyx I hope ..
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Pentasachme sp has long linear leaves with acute apex but this plant has small roundish leaf with obtuse apex. The most fascinating point of the flower is that it lacks calyx hence perianth is present !!! Pentasachme does not lack calyx I hope ..
Regards
Tanay
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Navendu
May 20, 2010, 3:27:36 AM5/20/10
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Unlikely that the calyx is absent. Can you send me better resolution
pictures. Its a dicot with pentamerous flowers, it has to have calyx.
I am pretty sure its Asclepiadaceae. If only you could send me the
close up of the flower. The leaf shape could be variable. Only
Magnoliaceae and some monocots have perianth but they dont have
pentamerous flowers and opposite leaves.
navendu
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> Dear Navendu Ji,
> *Pentasachme sp* has long linear leaves with acute apex but this plant has
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pictures. Its a dicot with pentamerous flowers, it has to have calyx.
I am pretty sure its Asclepiadaceae. If only you could send me the
close up of the flower. The leaf shape could be variable. Only
Magnoliaceae and some monocots have perianth but they dont have
pentamerous flowers and opposite leaves.
navendu
On May 19, 4:34 pm, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Navendu Ji,
> *Pentasachme sp* has long linear leaves with acute apex but this plant has
> small roundish leaf with obtuse apex. The most fascinating point of the
> flower is that it lacks calyx hence perianth is present !!!
> *Pentasachme*does not lack calyx I hope ..
> flower is that it lacks calyx hence perianth is present !!!
> Regards
> Tanay
>
>
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> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Navendu <navendu.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think this should be Pentasachme (Asclepediaceae)
>
> > navendu
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> > On May 18, 9:21 am, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Some primitive group of plant , i hope from the flower morphology but
> > have
> > > never seen it.
> > > tanay
>
> > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary <
>
> > > ritesh....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear all,
>
> > > > Attaching another herb collected from West Siang district of Arunachal
> > > > Pradesh for identification.
>
> > > > Regards,
>
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> > I think this should be Pentasachme (Asclepediaceae)
>
> > navendu
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> > On May 18, 9:21 am, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Some primitive group of plant , i hope from the flower morphology but
> > have
> > > never seen it.
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Pardeshi S.
May 20, 2010, 4:14:11 AM5/20/10
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Hello all
actually that is why it was adviced to follow posting guidelines and
format. so that all the ancilary information such as habit,
phyllotaxy, number of calyx, corolla ,etc can be get from the author
itself. may i request all to follow the format.
this is some Asclepediaceae member for sure.
Regards
Satish Pardeshi
actually that is why it was adviced to follow posting guidelines and
format. so that all the ancilary information such as habit,
phyllotaxy, number of calyx, corolla ,etc can be get from the author
itself. may i request all to follow the format.
this is some Asclepediaceae member for sure.
Regards
Satish Pardeshi
Pravir
May 20, 2010, 4:15:06 AM5/20/10
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The plant is Pentasachme caudatum .
Please cross check the details with the plant.
leaves linear lanceolate, caudate - acuminate.
Please cross check the details with the plant.
leaves linear lanceolate, caudate - acuminate.
Gurcharan Singh
May 20, 2010, 4:45:13 AM5/20/10
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As pointed out by Tanay P. caudatum has much narrower linear-lanceolate leaves.
This matches more with P. wallichii. Please compare the details.
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Navendu
May 21, 2010, 4:12:41 AM5/21/10
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thats very interesting, we need to check if there is a third species
of Pentasachme from other sources such as Flora of China and Bhutan.
And please send better pictures if any
navendu
On May 20, 5:12 pm, Pravir Deshmukh <prav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gurcharan Sir
> Please find the photo of P. wallichii
>
> The plant photo attach by the Ritesh sir is not resembles with the P
> wallichii
>
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> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Pravir ji
> > As pointed out by Tanay P. caudatum has much narrower linear-lanceolate
> > leaves.
> >http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85789&flora_id=2
>
> > This matches more with P. wallichii. Please compare the details.
>
> >http://www.illustratedgarden.org/mobot/rarebooks/page.asp?relation=QK...
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of Pentasachme from other sources such as Flora of China and Bhutan.
And please send better pictures if any
navendu
On May 20, 5:12 pm, Pravir Deshmukh <prav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gurcharan Sir
> Please find the photo of P. wallichii
>
> The plant photo attach by the Ritesh sir is not resembles with the P
> wallichii
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Pravir ji
> > As pointed out by Tanay P. caudatum has much narrower linear-lanceolate
> > leaves.
> >http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85789&flora_id=2
>
> > This matches more with P. wallichii. Please compare the details.
>
>
> > <http://www.illustratedgarden.org/mobot/rarebooks/page.asp?relation=QK...>
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May 21, 2010, 4:52:32 AM5/21/10
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There are five species of this genus. Two we have seen P. caudatum (eflora China) and P. wallichii (link given by me). The other three are P. championii, P. glaucescens and P. stauntonii. Let locate these three and compare.
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Navendu
May 22, 2010, 3:47:19 AM5/22/10
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Doesn't match the two species of Pentasachme reported from India,
although similar to P. wallichiana
One other possibility is that it could be a species of Cynanchium.
Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
or an erect herb?
navendu
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> There are five species of this genus. Two we have seen P. caudatum (eflora
> China) and P. wallichii (link given by me). The other three are P.
> championii, P. glaucescens and P. stauntonii. Let locate these three and
> compare.
>
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although similar to P. wallichiana
One other possibility is that it could be a species of Cynanchium.
Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
or an erect herb?
navendu
On May 21, 1:52 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are five species of this genus. Two we have seen P. caudatum (eflora
> China) and P. wallichii (link given by me). The other three are P.
> championii, P. glaucescens and P. stauntonii. Let locate these three and
> compare.
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Thanx for taking much interest in resolviing the identity of this
plant. It was a twinning herb as far as I can remember.
Hope we'd b able to identify the plant soon.
Regards,
Ritesh.
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> Doesn't match the two species of Pentasachme reported from India,
> although similar to P. wallichiana
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> One other possibility is that it could be a species of Cynanchium.
> Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
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Thanx for taking much interest in resolviing the identity of this
plant. It was a twinning herb as far as I can remember.
Hope we'd b able to identify the plant soon.
Regards,
Ritesh.
On May 22, 12:47 pm, Navendu <navendu.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Doesn't match the two species of Pentasachme reported from India,
> although similar to P. wallichiana
>
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> Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
> or an erect herb?
>
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“The plant is Pentasachme caudatum .
Please cross check the details with the plant.
leaves linear lanceolate, caudate - acuminate.” from Pravir ji.
“As pointed out by Tanay P. caudatum has much narrower linear-lanceolate leaves.
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=85789&flora_id=2
This matches more with P. wallichii. Please compare the details.
http://www.illustratedgarden.org/mobot/rarebooks/page.asp?relation=QK98D431820V5&identifier=0241
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
"Please find the photo of P. wallichii
The plant photo attach by the Ritesh sir is not resembles with the P wallichii" from Pravir ji.
“There are five species of this genus. Two we have seen P. caudatum (eflora China) and P. wallichii (link given by me). The other three are P. championii, P. glaucescens and P. stauntonii. Let locate these three and compare.
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"Doesn't match the two species of Pentasachme reported from India,
although similar to P. wallichiana
although similar to P. wallichiana
One other possibility is that it could be a species of Cynanchium.
Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
or an erect herb?
Many of the himalayan species have long corolla lobes. Was it a twiner
or an erect herb?
navendu"
"Thanx for taking much interest in resolviing the identity of this
plant. It was a twinning herb as far as I can remember.
Hope we'd b able to identify the plant soon.
Regards,
Ritesh."
Ritesh."
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A reply:
"I belive this is Pentasachme wallichii. Usually grow on barren rock surfaces on shady sides.
regards
Mithilesh K. Pathak"
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Forwarding pl.
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Date: 17 June 2010 16:13
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:35086] Another plant from Arunachal Pradesh for identification pl.
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From: Dr. M. K. Pathak <mithi...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 June 2010 16:13
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:35086] Another plant from Arunachal Pradesh for identification pl.
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Dear Dr. Garg Ji
I am attaching a photo of P. wallichii for comparison collected from Dibang Valley, Arunachal Pradesh.
regards
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A reply from another thread:
"Yes it may be a different species as Ritesh Ji has mentioned in the thread that it was a small twiner. P.wallichii as posted by me and Nidhan Ji are same in my opinion, both are small hanging herbs along waterfalls/ on dripping rocks and are never a twiner or climber.
As per Flowering Plants of India Dicotyledones (also as online Checklist of BSI) mention only three species in India. P.wallichii is known in all Himalaya and NE India while P.pulcherrima is known in C & E Himalaya. The third species P.caudatum is very different with very narrow leaves. However, an expert opinion will be more useful as I am not aware of East Himalayan flora.
DSRawat Pantnagar"On Tuesday, 18 May 2010 04:57:23 UTC+5:30, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary wrote:
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Attaching another herb collected from West Siang district of Arunachal Pradesh for identification.
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Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 at 4:57:23 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: [efloraofindia:35086] Another plant from Arunachal Pradesh for identification pl.
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Subject: [efloraofindia:35086] Another plant from Arunachal Pradesh for identification pl.
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I think it may be Pentasachme pulcherrima as per GBIF- specimen 1 and specimen 2
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Saroj Kasaju
Jan 15, 2021, 7:21:07 AM1/15/21
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I guess ID is correct !
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
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Gurcharan Singh
Apr 16, 2021, 8:59:42 AM4/16/21
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