ID of Fabaceae sp. from Meghalaya KD 14 Nov

[Karuna Das]

Dear All,

    Attached images may be  sp. of Fabaceae. Please ID the plant.  

Date :27.10.2014

Location: Meghalaya

Family : Fabaceae ??

Genus & species : ??

Habitat: Grows wild on open space

Habit : Herb

 

With regards

Karuna Kanta Das

Guwahati 781012

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[J.M. Garg]

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[surajit koley]

I have no idea of this strange looking herb.

Thank you

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

 

 

 

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[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Pretty close to Crotalaria sessiliflora.

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=crotalaria+sessiliflora&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5wp0VPqRB4WQuASs2ICICw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ

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Ritesh.

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Thank you very much Sir for ID.

With regards

Karuna Kanta Das

Guwahati

[Satish Phadke]

Very few members of Crotalaria seem to be there with blue rather than yellow flowers. This seems to be one of them.

Dr Satish Phadke

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[J.M. Garg]

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Does not seem to match with other images at Crotalaria sessiliflora

May be some other species.

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[Saroj Kumar Kasaju]

Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. ??

Thank  you

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Does not matches with the herbarium specimens at GBIF (Crotalaria capitata Baker syn. of Crotalaria khasiana Bal. ex Thoth. & A.A.Ansari syn. Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. as per Catalogue of life) GBIF (Crotalaria khasiana Bal. ex Thoth. & A.A.Ansari syn. Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. as per Catalogue of life) and as per keys in Flora of Bhutan at Crotalaria and as per description from there as below:

8. C. capitata Baker; C. bhutanica Thothathri
Low sprawling shrub, stems 15-40cm, appressed brown pubescent. Leaves oblanceolate or obovate, 1.2-3><0.5—1cm, acute, base cuneate, sessile, sparsely pilose above, appressed brown pubescent beneath; stipules minute, deciduous. Flowers 3-20 in short dense terminal racemes. Calyx c12mm densely long brown sericeous, deeply divided into lanceolate teeth, upper pair broader. Petals blue-violet, standard suborbicular c 1cm across, paler than wings and keel, wings oblong c 10X3mm, keel c 12X4mm, upwardly curved near middle, pale puberulous along upper margin. Pods obovoid, c 10><5mm, inflated, glabrous.
Bhutan: C—Thimphu to Tashigang districts, N—Upper Mo Chu and Upper Kuru Chu districts; Sikkim. On open grassy banks and gravel, 1825-3000m. July-September.

Also see Crotalaria khasiana (Fabaceae), a taxonomic synonym of C. bhutanica

I feel it is closer to images of Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. in Flowersofindia, but not correctly identified.

Amber ji and Tabish ji may pl. look into it.

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[Tabish]

Dear Garg ji,

  This plant does look superficially similar to the plant on FOI as Crotalaria bhutanica, but one can see differences. For example, compare the flower-stalks of the two. The leaves of Crotalaria bhutanica  are supposed to be inverted-lanceshaped or obovate. The angle of the pictures on FOI is such that this aspect is not very apparent.

The herbaria on GBIF are not detailed enough for comparing with FOI images.

   Tabish

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[J.M. Garg]

I checked with all the 4 blue flowered species listed in Meghalaya as per 2016 publication along with GBIf specimens, but could not get id of this one 9posted by Karuna ji).

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Crotalaria species- Meghalaya

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ID of Fabaceae sp. from Meghalaya KD 14 Nov (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

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Distributed as  Crotalaria species- Meghalaya

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ID of Fabaceae sp. from Meghalaya KD 14 Nov (google.com)

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Pretty close to Crotalaria sessiliflora. https://www.google.co.in/search?q=crotalaria+sessiliflora&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5wp0VPqRB4WQuASs2ICICw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ Regards, Ritesh.

Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. ?? Thank  you Saroj Kasaju

Does not matches with the herbarium specimens at GBIF (Crotalaria capitata Baker syn. of Crotalaria khasiana Bal. ex Thoth. & A.A.Ansari syn. Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. as per Catalogue of life) GBIF (Crotalaria khasiana Bal. ex Thoth. & A.A.Ansari syn. Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. as per Catalogue of life) and as per keys in Flora of Bhutan at Crotalaria and as per description from there as below:

8. C. capitata Baker; C. bhutanica Thothathri Low sprawling shrub, stems 15-40cm, appressed brown pubescent. Leaves oblanceolate or obovate, 1.2-3><0.5—1cm, acute, base cuneate, sessile, sparsely pilose above, appressed brown pubescent beneath; stipules minute, deciduous. Flowers 3-20 in short dense terminal racemes. Calyx c12mm densely long brown sericeous, deeply divided into lanceolate teeth, upper pair broader. Petals blue-violet, standard suborbicular c 1cm across, paler than wings and keel, wings oblong c 10X3mm, keel c 12X4mm, upwardly curved near middle, pale puberulous along upper margin. Pods obovoid, c 10><5mm, inflated, glabrous. Bhutan: C—Thimphu to Tashigang districts, N—Upper Mo Chu and Upper Kuru Chu districts; Sikkim. On open grassy banks and gravel, 1825-3000m. July-September. Also see Crotalaria khasiana (Fabaceae), a taxonomic synonym of C. bhutanica I feel it is closer to images of Crotalaria bhutanica Thoth. in Flowersofindia, but not correctly identified.

Amber ji and Tabish ji may pl. look into it.- from me

This plant does look superficially similar to the plant on FOI as Crotalaria bhutanica, but one can see differences. For example, compare the flower-stalks of the two. The leaves of Crotalaria bhutanica  are supposed to be inverted-lanceshaped or obovate. The angle of the pictures on FOI is such that this aspect is not very apparent. The herbaria on GBIF are not detailed enough for comparing with FOI images.    Tabish

I checked with all the 4 blue flowered species listed in Meghalaya as per 2016 publication along with GBIf specimens, but could not get id of this one posted by Karuna ji). - from me

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Vijay ji,
I will have relook again.

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Dear Garg Sir,

It is Crotalaria sessiliflora L.

Dr. Vijay Ashruba Paithane

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anis ji

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On Thu, 23 Sep, 2021, 8:59 pm Dr. Anis Ahmad Ansari, <a_a_ans...@live.com> wrote:

Also  check C. meghayensis  recently published, it is allied to C. occulta, please check

C. occulta  I'm sure

Do  check and let me know

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C. occulta

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anis ji,

I think more closer to images at Crotalaria meghalayensis Danda & A.K.Pandey after going through the paper of this publication, where difference with C.oculta is also given. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Anis ji

On Sun, 26 Sept 2021 at 17:42, Dr. Anis Ahmad Ansari <a_a_ans...@live.com> wrote:

As both have the same distributional range, the newly described C. meghalayensis may be true as of differences. I am happy you have closely matched.

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