DV :: 31MAR11 - 0830 :: ¿ Casearia ? at Madikeri

Dinesh Valke

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:34:51 PM4/12/11

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Dear friends,

A small unarmed tree (perhaps planted) ... seems to be a species of Casearia ... ID please.
Please bear with the low quality of pictures.

Date/Time : March 31, 2011 at 8.30am IST
Location Place : Kodagu Valley Resort, Coorg, Karnataka ... 12.440533, 75.716805 on Google maps
Altitude : 3715 ft (above mean sea level)

Regards.
Dinesh

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 13, 2011, 12:58:55 AM4/13/11

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... on other thoughts, would it be some species of Glochidion ?

Regards.
Dinesh

Mahadeswara

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Apr 13, 2011, 9:30:03 AM4/13/11

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Looks like Glochidion zeylanicum ?

On Apr 13, 9:58 am, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... on other thoughts, would it be some species of *Glochidion* ?
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh

>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear friends,
>

> > A small unarmed tree (perhaps planted) ... seems to be a species of *
> > Casearia* ... ID please.

> > Please bear with the low quality of pictures.
>
> > Date/Time : March 31, 2011 at 8.30am IST
> > Location Place : Kodagu Valley Resort, Coorg, Karnataka ... 12.440533,

> > 75.716805 on Google maps <http://goo.gl/maps/Ys6x>

rajank

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Apr 14, 2011, 8:15:01 AM4/14/11

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from pic. fls having short petiole & greenish yellow colour,

it may be Casearia sps.

rajank

On Apr 12, 11:34 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
>

> A small unarmed tree (perhaps planted) ... seems to be a species of *
> Casearia* ... ID please.

> Please bear with the low quality of pictures.
>
> Date/Time : March 31, 2011 at 8.30am IST
> Location Place : Kodagu Valley Resort, Coorg, Karnataka ... 12.440533,

> 75.716805 on Google maps <http://goo.gl/maps/Ys6x>

> Altitude : 3715 ft (above mean sea level)
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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Gurcharan Singh

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May 9, 2011, 8:30:17 AM5/9/11

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Resurfacing again for ID

Dinesh ji.........................................A small unarmed tree (perhaps planted) ... seems to be a species of Casearia ... ID please.

Please bear with the low quality of pictures............................................ on other thoughts, would it be some species of Glochidion ?

Mahadeswara ji........................................Looks like Glochidion zeylanicum ?

Rajank ji.................................................from pic. fls having short petiole & greenish yellow colour,

it may be Casearia sps.

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H S

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May 16, 2011, 9:59:52 AM5/16/11

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Foto number 5 doesnt look like Glochidion... so if all the foto are from same plant than definately its should not be Glochidion sp. may be some of Casearia sp..

- H.S.

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 23, 2011, 4:14:16 AM8/23/11

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“... on other thoughts, would it be some species of Glochidion ?

Regards.
Dinesh”

“Looks like Glochidion zeylanicum ?” from Mahadeswara ji.

“from pic. fls having short petiole & greenish yellow colour,

it may be Casearia sps.

rajank”

"Foto number 5 doesnt look like Glochidion... so if all the foto are from same plant than definately its should not be Glochidion sp. may be some of Casearia sp..
- H.S."

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Smilax004

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Nov 3, 2011, 8:13:24 AM11/3/11

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I happened to see this post while searching for Casearia.
To me it is a species of Glochidion.

Regards
Giby

On Apr 12, 11:34 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> A small unarmed tree (perhaps planted) ... seems to be a species of *
> Casearia* ... ID please.

> Please bear with the low quality of pictures.
>
> Date/Time : March 31, 2011 at 8.30am IST
> Location Place : Kodagu Valley Resort, Coorg, Karnataka ... 12.440533,

> 75.716805 on Google maps <http://goo.gl/maps/Ys6x>

> Altitude : 3715 ft (above mean sea level)
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>

Dinesh Valke

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Nov 3, 2011, 8:38:25 AM11/3/11

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Many thanks Giby ji.

Thus:
Glochidion: Giby ji and Mahadeswara ji
Casearia: Rajan ji and HS

Regards.
Dinesh

JM Garg

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Apr 9, 2022, 6:29:32 AM4/9/22

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This appears close to images and details at Glochidion zeylanicum (Gaertn.) A.Juss.

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 9, 2022, 9:26:53 AM4/9/22

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Thank you very much, Garg ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 9, 2022, 4:08:18 PM4/9/22

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This is not Glochidion zeylanicum, nor any other species of the genus. Possibly some other family.

Regards,

Tapas.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2022, 9:21:10 PM4/9/22

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Thanks a lot, Tapas ji

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 9, 2022, 9:49:00 PM4/9/22

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Thank you very much, Tapas ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Apr 14, 2022, 6:00:14 AM4/14/22

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Hi, Dinesh ji,

May I request you to pl. post high res. images, so that we can look for an id again.

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 14, 2022, 9:23:47 AM4/14/22

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Ok, Garg ji,

Photos were taken in low light, thus grainy. Yet, I hope this helps ...

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Apr 19, 2022, 8:13:04 AM4/19/22

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Thanks, Dinesh ji.

To me it appears to be close to images at Aporosa cardiosperma (Gaertn.) Merr.

These appear to be female flowers.

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 19, 2022, 8:23:24 AM4/19/22

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Thanks Garg ji.

Please let us wait for comments; I was not able to find any images on Aporosa cardiosperma (Gaertn.) Merr. page showing female flowers. I was neither able to find any in Google image search.

Regards.

Dinesh

Dinesh Valke

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Apr 19, 2022, 8:26:03 AM4/19/22

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Garg ji, just a wild guess, any chance of any Diospyros spp. ?

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Apr 19, 2022, 8:28:04 AM4/19/22

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Hi, Dinesh ji,

Try to match with the young fruits which we see in some of your images.

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Dinesh Valke

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Apr 19, 2022, 8:32:55 AM4/19/22

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Possible, Garg ji.

But I could not get to see female flowers anywhere to check.

Regards.

Dinesh

navendu page

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Apr 19, 2022, 9:12:54 AM4/19/22

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I think this is Glochidion zeylanicum

@Tapas Chakrabarty Sir - why do you say this is not Glochidion?

We can clearly see the male and female flowers in the axils of the leaves.

I am attaching closeup photos of male and female flowers of Glochidion zeylanicum which match well with Dinesh Ji's photos

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 19, 2022, 9:53:13 AM4/19/22

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Thanks, Navendu ji.
But to me what you see as female flowers look like youg fruit. Pl. note the style in it.

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navendu page

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Apr 19, 2022, 10:01:02 AM4/19/22

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Yes Garg Ji, that is exactly what female flowers look like in this group, they are just ovary with stigma on top surrounded by perianth.

You can see all stages of development from bud to flower to very young fruit in my photo.

Navendu

Dinesh Valke

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Apr 19, 2022, 10:12:38 AM4/19/22

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Thank you very very much Navendu for resolving the ID.

Many thanks Garg ji for resurfacing and following up of this query with poor quality photos.

Thanks very much Tapas ji.

Regards.

Dinesh

J.M. Garg

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Apr 19, 2022, 11:34:00 AM4/19/22

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Thanks, Navendu ji, for the clarification.

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Apr 19, 2022, 1:19:26 PM4/19/22

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Well Navendu ji,

I have now seen Dinesh ji's photos at Flickr. Okay, Glochidion.

Mahadeswara

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Apr 19, 2022, 11:39:45 PM4/19/22

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Thanks Navendu ji for confirming my very first suggestion long back: Glochidion zeylanicum

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