SK1657 19 Dec 2018

Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 19, 2018, 9:32:35 AM12/19/18

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Dear Members,

Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal

Elevation : 8200 ft.
Date : 11 December 2018

Habit : Wild

Which Asteraceae ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 19, 2018, 9:37:17 AM12/19/18

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Thanks, Saroj ji

Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 19, 2018, 9:39:03 AM12/19/18

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Thank you Mr. Garg!

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jan 9, 2019, 10:51:45 AM1/9/19

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 10, 2019, 2:10:27 AM1/10/19

to D.S Rawat, efloraofindia, Saroj Kasaju

Thanks, Rawat ji.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 11:25, D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:

Closer to:
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/melanoseris

DSRawat Pantnagar
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Dr D.S. Rawat
Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA
eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 10, 2019, 7:05:32 AM1/10/19

to J.M. Garg, D.S Rawat, efloraofindia

Dear RawatvbJI,

I did not find any match in the EFN.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jan 10, 2019, 8:14:15 AM1/10/19

to Saroj Kasaju, D.S Rawat, efloraofindia

You can further check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae

Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 11, 2019, 5:15:35 AM1/11/19

to Bhaskar Adhikari, efloraindia, J.M. Garg

Forwarding for ID help.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Subject: SK1657 19 Dec 2018

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:17 PM
To: efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Members,

Location : Chandragiri Hills, Kathmandu, Nepal

Elevation : 8200 ft.
Date : 11 December 2018

Habit : Wild

Which Asteraceae ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:22 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Thanks, Saroj ji

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:23 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Thank you Mr. Garg!

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 9:36 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 are directly displayed).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 12:55 PM
To: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Thanks, Rawat ji.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 11:25, D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> wrote:

Closer to:
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/melanoseris

DSRawat Pantnagar
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr D.S. Rawat
Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA
eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:50 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Dear RawatvbJI,

I did not find any match in the EFN.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 6:59 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 17, 2020, 10:22:55 AM9/17/20

to J.M. Garg, Paradesi Anjaneyulu, D.S Rawat, efloraofindia

Melanoseris bracteata (Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian ???

Syn : Lactuca bracteata Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 20, 2020, 8:18:58 AM9/20/20

to Saroj Kasaju, Paradesi Anjaneyulu, D.S Rawat, efloraofindia

Yes, maybe though I am not sure.

Pl. see GBIF.

What is worrying me is the long inflorescence.

Pl. see the longest I could find in GBIF is this specimen.

But I find there are wide variations in Lactuca/ Melanoseris

It also does not come close with any other species mentioned in Checklist of Nepal.

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Bijay Khadka

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Sep 20, 2020, 11:59:46 AM9/20/20

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No it might not be Melanoseris bracteata as of plant morphology.

Could not find images of some common species in nepal..

Regards,

Bijay

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 2:19:12 AM9/23/20

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Bijay

Any suggestion of sp. besides Lactuca ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:16 AM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Closer to:
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/melanoseris
DSRawat Pantnagar

I did not find any match in the EFN.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju

You can further check comparative images at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae - from me

Melanoseris bracteata (Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian ???
Syn : Lactuca bracteata Hook.f. & Thomson ex C.B.Clarke

Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

Yes, maybe though I am not sure.
Pl. see GBIF.
What is worrying me is the long inflorescence.
Pl. see the longest I could find in GBIF is this specimen.
But I find there are wide variations in Lactuca/ Melanoseris

It also does not come close with any other species mentioned in Checklist of Nepal. --
With regards,
J.M.Garg

No it might not be Melanoseris bracteata as of plant morphology.
Could not find images of some common species in nepal..
Regards,
Bijay

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J.M.Garg

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 4:35:23 AM9/23/20

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Melanoseris rapunculoides Edgew. Syn : Cicerbita rapunculoides (DC.) P. Beauv. ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Ashutosh Sharma

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Sep 23, 2020, 4:49:48 AM9/23/20

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Melanoseris cyanea

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Ashutosh Sharma

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 5:09:08 AM9/23/20

to Ashutosh Sharma, J.M. Garg, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Looks different !

FoI

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 5:09:59 AM9/23/20

to Ashutosh Sharma, J.M. Garg, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Pedicle is very long in M. cyana.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Ashutosh Sharma

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Sep 23, 2020, 5:34:55 AM9/23/20

to Saroj Kasaju, J.M. Garg, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Respected Saroj ji,

Actually pedicel is not much long in M.cyanea please see illustration at

http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121562&flora_id=2

What we see in foi is likely a terminal capitula so it looks like having quite longer pedicel...

I feel it should be Melanoseris cyanea.

Best regards

Ashutosh Sharma

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 23, 2020, 8:06:15 AM9/23/20

to Ashutosh Sharma, J.M. Garg, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Dear Ashutosh JI,

Does the following links and efi images matching?

Plant Catalogue

Biotracks

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2020, 4:13:11 AM9/25/20

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Looks different from Melanoseris rapunculoides as per GBIF.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2020, 4:14:28 AM9/25/20

to Ashutosh Sharma, Saroj Kasaju, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

I agree with Ashutosh ji as per GBIF Specimens:

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fresearcharchive.calacademy.org%2Fimage_db%2Fbotany%2Fcas0298684.jpg

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F907c08715baa6d43146e0e8e3daf2ab8f6690dc6%2Fcontents%2Fpreview

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2Fa503b5e1203d0e997989497f94d3e92db6de00e9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview

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J.M.Garg

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 25, 2020, 6:15:44 AM9/25/20

to J.M. Garg, Ashutosh Sharma, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Finally! Thank you Ashutosh Ji / Mr. Garg / Raswat Ji!

Melanoseris cyanea Edgew.

Syn : Cicerbita cyanea (D. Don) P. Beauv.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 26, 2020, 7:48:19 AM10/26/20

to J.M. Garg, Ashutosh Sharma, efloraofindia, Bijay Khadka, D.S Rawat

Just for future reference!

M. cyanea

Melanoseris atropurpurea (Franch.) N. Kilian & Ze H. Wang

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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