Identification requested ATMAR2016/06

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Anil Thakur

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Mar 25, 2016, 4:03:40 PM3/25/16
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Kindly help with identification of this herbaceous plant.

Place: Hamirpur (H.P.)
Date: Jan. 29, 2015

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Ushadi Micromini

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Mar 25, 2016, 6:35:33 PM3/25/16
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wild carrot?


the flowers are not symmetrically petaled... weird at first glance

did you get to see the roots
and a close up of the stem and streaks of colors

and was the main stem hollow?

usha di

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Promila Chaturvedi

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Mar 26, 2016, 3:25:07 AM3/26/16
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Usha i also think it is Queen Ann's Lace, it is also known as Lady's Lace.
Promila

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Anil Thakur

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Mar 26, 2016, 12:55:39 PM3/26/16
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Respected Usha Di
I have not seen its roots. Is wild carrot a small herb nearly 15cm high?

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Ushadi Micromini

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Mar 26, 2016, 10:43:56 PM3/26/16
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Anil

could be
esp if grazed, it grows back  while in that stage it could be short.

But chances are this is not Queen Anne's lace.  Good chances it is not.


I was intrigued by the irregularly asymmetric flowers and not completely an umbel

i am getting at something else but unless i have more data from you i would rather not speak about it.

where is this growing?
can you get to it again?

i need pictures of the stem especially near the base and just above... color , any streaks, any hairs etc.

only thing i can tell you is be careful.

usha di



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Anil Thakur

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Mar 26, 2016, 11:50:40 PM3/26/16
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Thank you very much, Di.
It was growing near to my native place in Hamirpur (H.P.).
It occurs quite commonly there and always remain low in height as I have noticed over the years.
Presently, I am staying at Shimla and Solan, it will not be possible for me to go again to that site again this year. I'll try to ask someone to do it for me.

With best regards
Anil Thakur

Ushadi Micromini

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Mar 27, 2016, 4:54:55 AM3/27/16
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ANil
I think its perhaps one of the  lesser known parsley or some such

the distinguishing feature it seems has to be that one petal that sticks out and lasts longer on the flower when the other petals have fallen off.
Most  cultivated and wild parsley that i am even remotely familiar with has  a bifurcated longish petal or two ...
this is a bit beyond what i remember from the summer foraging classes ...

may be its one of those on the silk route or the caravan routes ... migrated and naturalized in India.????


Or may be the answer is very simple right under my nose and i cant seem to remember it.

Perhaps Gurcharanji will know or Nidhan or Balkar would know?
i have added them in this reply.

lets see

usha di
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Anil Thakur

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Mar 27, 2016, 8:46:32 AM3/27/16
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Thank you, Di

J.M. Garg

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Mar 31, 2016, 4:44:33 AM3/31/16
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Forwarding again for Id  assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

wild carrot?
the flowers are not symmetrically petaled... weird at first glance
did you get to see the roots
and a close up of the stem and streaks of colors
and was the main stem hollow?

usha di 

Usha i also think it is Queen Ann's Lace, it is also known as Lady's Lace.

Promila 

I have not seen its roots. Is wild carrot a small  herb nearly 15cm high?
Regards 
 
Anil

could be
esp if grazed, it grows back  while in that stage it could be short.

But chances are this is not Queen Anne's lace.  Good chances it is not.

I was intrigued by the irregularly asymmetric flowers and not completely an umbel
i am getting at something else but unless i have more data from you i would rather not speak about it.
where is this growing?
can you get to it again?
i need pictures of the stem especially near the base and just above... color , any streaks, any hairs etc.
only thing i can tell you is be careful.
usha di 

Thank you very much, Di.
It was growing near to my native place in Hamirpur (H.P.).
It occurs quite commonly there and always remain low in height as I have noticed over the years.
Presently, I am staying at Shimla and Solan, it will not be possible for me to go again to that site again this year. I'll try to ask someone to do it for me.
With best regards
Anil Thakur 

I think its perhaps one of the  lesser known parsley or some such


the distinguishing feature it seems has to be that one petal that sticks out and lasts longer on the flower when the other petals have fallen off.
Most  cultivated and wild parsley that i am even remotely familiar with has  a bifurcated longish petal or two ...
this is a bit beyond what i remember from the summer foraging classes ...
may be its one of those on the silk route or the caravan routes ... migrated and naturalized in India.????
Or may be the answer is very simple right under my nose and i cant seem to remember it.
Perhaps Gurcharanji will know or Nidhan or Balkar would know?
i have added them in this reply.
lets see
usha di

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 5, 2021, 10:21:52 AM4/5/21
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Forwarding for ID
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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 5, 2021, 10:22:53 AM4/5/21
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Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 5, 2021, 3:20:38 PM4/5/21
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Scandix pecten-veneris

Regards 


Nancy Seby

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Apr 6, 2021, 1:12:01 AM4/6/21
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Agree with Scandix pecten-veneris

Warm regards
Nancy Seby

J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2021, 7:26:33 AM4/9/21
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Thanks, Anil ji and Nancy ji,
I also agree with you. 

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