Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02

[Suresh Kumar Rana]

Request for identification:

Date: 14 June 2011

Location: Paddar valley Kishtwar J&K.

Altitude: 4562 meters asl

Plant habit/habitat: Wild herb

Thanks and regards

--
Suresh Rana

[Satish Phadke]

Very colourful flowers.

--
Dr Satish Phadke

[Suresh Rana]

Yes Sir a plant with colourful flowers blooming just after the melting
of snow in Himalayan alpines.

Regards
Suresh

[Gurcharan Singh]

A really interesting Primula

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Prashant Awale]

Yes, really interesting and beautiful flowers.
Regards
Prashant

[Suresh Rana]

Respected Gurcharan Sir

Any clue for the identification of this Primula species.

Thanks and warm regards
Suresh Rana

[Gurcharan Singh]

Not yet Suresh ji

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“A really interesting Primula”

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1870 members & 1,18,000 messages on 31/5/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 6500 species).

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

[jmgarg1]

Forwarding again forId assistance please.

Some earlierrelevant feedback:

“A really interesting Primula” from Singh ji.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Suresh Kumar Rana <envsu...@gmail.com>
Date: 21 November 2011 16:13
Subject: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

[D.S Rawat]

Very interesting Primula species. Never seen this in Uttarakhand. Take the help of Primulaceae in Flora of Pakistan.

DSRawat Pantnagar

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Suresh Kumar Rana <envsu...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 at 16:13
Subject: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

This scares me. Eating my brains 😂 !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFARcGcS2cgF0fDjW4BzKTvhoohtnngyO-MA2qWgnyWm1Q%40mail.gmail.com.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, John ji.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: John Richards 
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 15:00
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Not my area of expertise! John

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

This may be Androsace rather than Primula. 

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 21:54
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: John Richards

Thanks, John ji.

Can it be some Androsace?

To whom can I consult ?

Jozef Lemmens- Androsace World's mail of bis...@gmail.com does not seem to be working.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 15:00, John Richards <hightre...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Not my area of expertise! John

------ Original Message ------
From: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "Suresh Kumar Rana" <envsu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 20 Mar, 22 At 11:39

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, John ji.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: John Richards 
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 15:21
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

I think the family is Boraginaceae? John.

------ Original Message ------
From: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: "John Richards" <hightre...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, 24 Mar, 22 At 16:24
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02

Thanks, John ji.

Can it be some Androsace?

To whom can I consult ?

Jozef Lemmens- Androsace World's mail of bis...@gmail.com does not seem to be working.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 15:00, John Richards <hightre...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Not my area of expertise! John

------ Original Message ------
From: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "Suresh Kumar Rana" <envsu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, 20 Mar, 22 At 11:39

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Plantaholic Sheila.]

Interesting one.

I have tried hard to id this one.

If this was taken in UK I would say Ophalodes cappadocica Starry Eyes.

But I have not been able to find anything for Omphalodes in India.

I cannot even see if it is  Boraginaceae or not

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22omphalodes+cappadocica+%27starry+eyes%27%22&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwj99te2qOH2AhUTY_EDHdDKCQYQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%22omphalodes+cappadocica+%27starry+eyes%27%22&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDIHCCMQ7wMQJzIECAAQHlCICliMNWCYSGgBcAB4AIABgAGIAa0DkgEDMS4zmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=lbw9Yr3YNZPGxc8P0JWnMA&bih=595&biw=1280&client=firefox-b-d

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sheila ji.

After checking all the listed species in BSI Flora of India, it appears close to images at Decalepidanthus moltkioides (syn: Pseudomertensia moltkioides (Royle) Kazmi) and as per keys in Flora of Pakistan (detailed description at Pseudomertensia moltkioides) and as per POWO specimen.

However, I am unable to account for the pattern on the petals (any clues/ thoughts in the matter?- can it be some deformity?)

--

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.

To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2d7e4c3a-486c-4e1d-8035-19aec78f2ee6n%40googlegroups.com.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Saroj Kasaju]

Anchusa ????

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Looks much different from listed species in eFlora from India, as per images at POWO:
Anchusa arvensis subsp. orientalis (L.) Nordh.
Anchusa azurea Miller

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Gurcharan Singh]

I think Lithodora diffusa 'Blue Star'

[Gurcharan Singh]

New name Glandora diffusa  (Lag. ) I.M.Johnst.   ''Blue Star'

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji.

But it is a wild herb from Paddar valley.

Leaves do not match. 

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.

To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/568b5256-cb81-43c3-816e-f7e772f3b29bn%40googlegroups.com.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Rawat ji

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: GOPAL SINGH Rawat <gsra...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 16:43
Subject: Re: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Garg Ji,

Closest I can get is Pseudomertensia (=Decalepidanthus sp). It could well be a new species...

Dr. Suresh Rana is my student and I hope to visit Paddar Valley with him this August.

Regards,

G S Rawat

---

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 3:11 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Rawat ji,

May I request you to pl. help us with the id of this one.

It has been long pending.

Pl. see earlier discussions at Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Suresh Kumar Rana <envsu...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 at 16:13
Subject: [efloraindia:95722] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J&K: 211111 SRANA 02
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Gurcharan Singh]

I hope G S Rawat ji and Alok ji must have found solution to its ID, if not, the closest I find is Glandora diffusa 'Blue Star'

https://www.gardentags.com/profile/atomica/lithodora-diffusa-blue-star/100959

https://in.pinterest.com/pin/542613455089205262/

https://www.promessedefleurs.com/vivaces/vivaces-par-variete/lithodoras/lithodora-diffusa-star-gremil-diffus-p-5522.html

I have just shared typical Glandora diffusa in the group.

[J.M. Garg]

I do not think it matches.

--

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.

To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/2e50ebe0-2dd0-4d6b-8939-25698a4e0aa9n%40googlegroups.com.

--

With regards,
J.M.Garg