Ophioglossum sp for ID- 030711-PKA1

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Prashant awale

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Jul 3, 2011, 9:55:10 AM7/3/11
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Dear Friends,
I had seen this Herb today on a hill top in Amba valley. I think this is some Ophioglossum sp.

Date/Time: 03-07-2011 / 12:40PM

Location: Mrugagad, Bheliv Cha Killa (near Jambhulpada, Khopoli Pali Rd, Amba valley), Maharashtra

Altitude Approx. 2000ft
Habitat: Wild
Plant Habit: Herb,  around 12 cm

Regards
Prashant

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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 3, 2011, 10:12:03 AM7/3/11
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Could this be Ophioglossum vulgatum?
Just for info to others, Ophio means snake and glossum means tongue,
pointing towards the sporophyte which looks like snake's tongue.
Pankaj
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Smilax004

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Jul 3, 2011, 11:47:07 AM7/3/11
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I too think that this is Ophioglossum vulgatum.

Regards,
Giby

J.M. Garg

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Could this be Ophioglossum vulgatum?

Just for info to others, Ophio means snake and glossum means tongue,
pointing towards the sporophyte which looks like snake's tongue.

Pankaj”              

                

“I too think that this is Ophioglossum vulgatum.

Regards,
Giby”

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Mayur Nandikar

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Oct 16, 2011, 8:38:49 AM10/16/11
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I think this may be Ophioglossum reticulatum
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J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Could this be Ophioglossum vulgatum? Just for info to others, Ophio means snake and glossum means tongue,
pointing towards the sporophyte which looks like snake's tongue.

Pankaj”              
                
“I too think that this is Ophioglossum vulgatum.
Regards,
Giby”
 
"I think this may be Ophioglossum reticulatum" from Mayur ji.

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Nayan Singh

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Feb 18, 2012, 9:57:49 AM2/18/12
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I think it is Ophioglossum costatum R.Br.
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Nayan.
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Could this be Ophioglossum vulgatum? Just for info to others, Ophio means snake and glossum means tongue,
pointing towards the sporophyte which looks like snake's tongue.
Pankaj”              
                
“I too think that this isOphioglossum vulgatum.
Regards,
Giby”
 
"I think this may beOphioglossum reticulatum" from Mayur ji.

mayur nandikar

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Feb 19, 2012, 2:08:06 AM2/19/12
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This could be a common one i. e. Ophioglossum reticulatum L. just confirm it at once.
Thank you.
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J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Could this be Ophioglossum vulgatum? Just for info to others, Ophio means snake and glossum means tongue,
pointing towards the sporophyte which looks like snake's tongue.

Pankaj”

“I too think that this is Ophioglossum vulgatum.
Regards,
Giby”
"I think this may be Ophioglossum reticulatum" from Mayur ji.

"I think it is Ophioglossum costatum R.Br.
Regards
Nayan."
"This could be a common one i. e. Ophioglossum reticulatum L. just confirm it at once.
Thank you." from Mayur ji.
 
 
 
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J.M. Garg

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"indeed it is ophioglossum" from Darshan Kokate ji.

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JM Garg

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2023, 6:34:18 AM4/9/23
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2023, 12:22:29 PM4/9/23
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Thanks a lot, Chris ji
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That's very nice, and lovely photos too.  I was just thinking I'm not going to be able to identify it as I must see the rhizome and rhizoids, but there you have a good photo of that too. 

It is a smallish O. costatum, with its globose (often deep bowl shaped) corm and many thin roots arising from it.  The specimen with the slightly taller, longer sterile leaves is more typical, but the shorter rounder leaves also occur in smaller plants.

Best wishes,
      Chris Fraser Jenkins.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2023, 12:24:02 PM4/9/23
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Thanks a lot, Chris ji
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PS I had assumed it was all one species, but your photo 8988 looks a lot more like O. petiolatum, while 8986 might even be O. gomezianum, which is common enough in C., W. and S. India.

But we'd have to see good, clear photos of the rhizomes connected to the leaves.  O. petiolatum does not have a globose or subglobose rhizome, while O. gomezianum is subglobose.  Neither has the thin rhizoids of O. costatum, but they have fewer slightly thicker rhizoids, which can reproduce plants through adventitious root buds.

Mixed populations of more than one species occur quite commonly.

The O. costatum is definite; the other possible two don't have rhizome and root information so not really identifiable.  Do you remember if the one that looks like petiolatum has elongated rhizomes, not the round ones?

Best,
     Chris Fraser Jenkins.

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