Plant For ID : Bangalore : 27JAN17 : AK-10

[Aarti S. Khale]

A wild plant seen in the first week of Jan,2017 near a lake.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Nice images,  Aarti ji

On 27 Jan 2017 11:47 a.m., "Aarti S. Khale" <aarti...@gmail.com> wrote:

A wild plant seen in the first week of Jan,2017 near a lake.

Aarti

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Resurfacing for id.

Phytolacca Species?

But the berries look different, they are more rounded.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Aarti ji

[Aarti S. Khale]

Could be Phytolacca americana?

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Aarti ji, for the id.

To me also it appears close to images at

DV :: 16NOV11 - 0930 :: ¿ Phytolacca ? along roadside, Ooty

Phytolacca americana L. (accepted name) ??

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Garg Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

I think Phytolacca icosandra L. as per details and keys herein and as per comparative images at Phytolacca‎

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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 at 11:47
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[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks a lot Garg Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

Could we recheck this Phytolacca Species?

Gurcharan Ji had suggested Phytolacca esculenta.

Regards,

Aarti

[JM Garg]

Phytolacca acinosa Roxb. looks correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Friday, 27 January 2017 11:47:35 UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[JM Garg]

My earlier reply:

I think Phytolacca icosandra L. as per details and keys herein and as per comparative images at Phytolacca

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On Friday, 27 January 2017 11:47:35 UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[JM Garg]

Garg Ji,

This was Gurcharan Ji's reply to me earlier

"Notice joined carpels (more or less separate in P. acinosa). This should be P. esculenta. Similar with infl. drooping in fruit would be P. americana."

Also, the two recent posts under this on the group have been mysteriously deleted. 

Regards,

Aarti

On Friday, 27 January 2017 11:47:35 UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[JM Garg]

P. esculenta has now been merged with P. acinosa

According to revised interpretation it should be P. octandra (I don't see more than 10 stamens), in P. icosandra there are more than 10 stamens in two whorls.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

On Friday, 27 January 2017 11:47:35 UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Gurcharan Ji and Garg Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

I think Phytolacca icosandra L. as per details and keys herein and as per comparative images at Phytolacca‎

Looks different from Phytolacca acinosa Roxb.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Here is typical P. isocandra with more than 10 longer stamens

http://www.fpcn.net/uploads/allimg/180724/2-1PH4120645202.JPG

The plant by Aarti ji has fewer shorter stamens which separates P. octandra, which is considered distinct by both Plants of the World Online and World Flora Online

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji,

I have based my observations on efi site pages.

Here as per Catalogue of life, Phytolacca octandra L. is considered a syn. of Phytolacca icosandra L.

Also both are considered the same as per

https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/phytolacca_octandra.htm

The Plant List Ver. 1.1 is based on WCSP (under review).

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks Garg ji

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Mob: 9810359089

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/