SK1920 16 May 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Phulchoki, Lalitpur, Nepal

Altitude: 2512 m.

Date: 8 May 2019

Habit : Wild

Araceaec???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Araceae ?

If so, pl. check comparative images at Araceae

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[Pascal Bruggeman]

No Araceae, maybe Asteracae (Compositae) but definitely no Araceae.

 

Pascal

[Saroj Kasaju]

Yes I realize it. Not the Araceae !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Araceae ? If so, pl. check comparative images at Araceae - from me

No Araceae, maybe Asteracae (Compositae) but definitely no Araceae. Pascal

Yes I realize it. Not the Araceae ! Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Ishwari ji.

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From: Dr. Ishwari Rai
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 17:17
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In my view it is from Apiaceae,  though leaf bases are not visible. It looks similar to Angelica archangelica of W.H.

Thanks

Ishwari

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Dr. Rai.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ishwari ji for the id.

Current name seems to be Angelica oreadum as per discussions herein.

Although Catalogue of Life gives it as Angelica archangelica subsp. himalaica (C. B. Cl.) G. Singh & G. M. Oza).

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg / Dr. Rai,

I shall try to visit for flowering. Could you please suggest 

for the flowering season?

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check the flowering observations at the efi site link I have given you. 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

3 July 2019 at 2543 m.

Does these images validate the ID ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Excerpts from Flora of kathmandu Valley !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Yes as per Angelica oreadum (DIELS) M.HIROE

[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess this is Angelica archangelica L..

Angelica archangelica L.

Angelica oreada (Diels) M.Hiroe

Angelica archangelica L.

Angelica oreadum (Diels) M. Hiroe

Angelica ACFPN

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

On further checking, I found your post is of Heracleum candicans

Ashwini ji's post at Angelica oreadum? ABAUG2016/22 is also correct for Heracleum candicans

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[Saroj Kasaju]

I still feel it is Angelica archangelica !

 500 × 500 

 1300 × 975  

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Leaves can be confusing. Earlier I went be the leaves and did not pay attention to the inflorescence. Leaves in Heracleum and Angelica can be very confusing.

Pl. check the inflorescence at Angelica oreadum and Heracleum candicans and you will understand the difference.

In Ashwini ji's thread, we both were confusing- when I suggested Heracleum candicans, he stated Angelica oreadum. When I stated Angelica oreadum, he stated Heracleum candicans.    

[Ushadi Micromini]

differential diagnosis between the two is multifactorial

to me it looks like Angelica sp (cant go further until i see flowers) 

though Saroj ji may have to go back for flowers

and then take more pictures to demonstrate all the salient points in this pdf

including one full branch of the compound leaf leaf....

and absence of hairs, spikes etc on stem , if angelica

see this pdf  from univ illinois

it seems easy enough

https://www.inhs.illinois.edu/files/8314/9848/6126/Hogweed_and_Lookalikes_2017.pdf  

usha di 

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[usha]

thank you 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Angelica archangelica subsp. himalaica (C. B. Cl.) G. Singh & G. M. Oza is found listed 

in the book about Flora of Phulchoki !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Enclosing image from book Flora of Phulchoki for further reference.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

I am still not sure if it is Semenovia candicans (Wall. ex DC.). Plant is pubescent or tomentose in Semenovia candicans (Wall. ex DC.) but is it glabrous in the sp.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200015565

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju