ID please 09062020PK1

Puttaraju K

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Jun 30, 2020, 9:36:01 PM6/30/20

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Dear All,

ID requested for the following attachment.

Date/Time-: 09/06/2020 - 07:15

Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- herb

Height/Length-18cm

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PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshir...@gmail.com
kputt...@npcil.co.in

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Puttaraju K

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Jun 30, 2020, 9:38:29 PM6/30/20

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Dear All,

ID requested for the following attachment.

Date/Time-: 09/06/2020 - 07:15

Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- herb

Height/Length-60cm

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 30, 2020, 11:43:11 PM6/30/20

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Amorphophallus bulbifer (Roxb.) Blume !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 1, 2020, 12:10:27 AM7/1/20

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Amorphophallus sp. !

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Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2020, 6:38:24 AM7/5/20

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please for this Amorphophallus species.

I could not find a match as per comparative images at Amorphophallus

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Pascal Bruggeman

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Jul 5, 2020, 11:23:22 AM7/5/20

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If this is indeed from S India it could very well be an undescribed species as it does not seem to fall in any of the known species for India. To to be sure I will ask the person that will do the Amorphophallus treatment for the new and upcoming Flora of India and ask him to reply to the group. Stunning find!

Pascal

J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2020, 11:27:15 AM7/5/20

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Thanks a lot, Pascal ji.

J.M. Garg

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Jul 5, 2020, 11:24:22 PM7/5/20

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Thanks alot, Wilbert ji.

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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 23:16
Subject: RE: Fwd: [efloraofindia:353674] ID please 09062020PK1
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Good sir

I would advise to check this against Am. commutatus. It is a very variable species with several subspecies. You also need to present pictures of the inner organs.

If it can be well separated from all forms of commutatus, it may be a new species.

Best,

Wilbert Hetterscheid

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 7, 2020, 4:26:39 AM7/7/20

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Thanks a lot, Wilbert ji and Pascal ji.

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I feel almost 100% sure that your plant is A. commutatus subsp. brevipedunculatus

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Thanks a lot, Wilbert ji.

J.M. Garg

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Jul 7, 2020, 9:53:19 PM7/7/20

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From: Puttaraju K <pakshir...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul, 2020, 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:353674] ID please 09062020PK1
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Hi Garg ji,

Hope this mail finds you well.

Thank you for the input.

Kind regards

Puttaraju K

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 8, 2020, 1:16:19 PM7/8/20

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Thanks a lot, Sivadasan ji.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 21:23, Dr M Sivadasan <drmsiv...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

The attached image is of Amorphophallus commutatus (Schott) Engl. var. anmodensis Sivad. et Jaleel, Rheedea 12(2): 159. 2002.

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M Sivadasan

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 8, 2020, 10:23:10 PM7/8/20

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Thanks a lot, Pascal ji

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Dear Dr. Garg,

I could not find a literature reference for the suggestion of Wilbert (ssp. brevipedunculata) but I referred Puttaraju to that exact variety anmodensis too as it was described from Goa and that is close to where this plant was found.

Apart from Rheedea it can be found here too:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236615696_A_Taxonomic_Revision_of_Amorphophallus_Blume_ex_Decne_Sect_Conophallus_Schott_Engl_Araceae_in_India

Pascal

J.M. Garg

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Jul 10, 2020, 4:29:18 AM7/10/20

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Thanks, Wilbert ji.

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 12:15, hetter <het...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

Sivadasan is correct but I thought the name ssp. or var. brevipedunculatus had been published earlier for what is var. anmodensis.
Will check that again.

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