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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 8, 2016, 12:36:43 PM7/8/16
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Dear Mr. Garg,

Malaxis josephiana ??
or acuminata ???

Enclosing some pictures for  identification verification.

Location : Nagarkot  Nepal

Altitude:  6500ft.

Date: 8 July 2016

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 8, 2016, 12:38:16 PM7/8/16
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One more picture !

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Jul 9, 2016, 12:34:36 AM7/9/16
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Jul 11, 2016, 4:22:31 AM7/11/16
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Date: 11 July 2016 at 13:28
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Awaiting verification! Thank you !

J.M. Garg

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Jul 11, 2016, 4:22:49 AM7/11/16
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Awaiting verification! Thank you !
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:19 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 11, 2016, 4:53:59 AM7/11/16
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Crepidium purpureum (Malaxis purpurea).
Thanks for sharing.
Pankaj

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Jul 11, 2016, 8:23:44 PM7/11/16
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Thanks, Saroj ji

On 11 Jul 2016 20:54, "Saroj Kasaju" <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr.Pankaj,

Thank you for your efforts to ID the plant but some experts here say it us M. josephiana ! The leaves and stems do not look like it matches with M. purpurea because it has colored shades in the base ! I am still confused !

Thank you .

Saroj Kasaju

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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 11, 2016, 9:20:11 PM7/11/16
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Dear Sir
May I know which expert said it is josephianum??? Crepidium josephianum illustration is available in King and Pantling and it is so different that I want to make a new genus out of it, but It still stays within the limits of Crepidium so I didnt bother.
Please find a plate of josephianum attached I am sure you will agree that your plant is atleast not josephianum.
I am sure it is purpureum because I have been working on purpureum and acuminatum for one year now and I have images and illustrations from all over its distribution including the type locality in Sri Lanka.
Hope this helps.
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 11, 2016, 9:27:13 PM7/11/16
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I just realised that my friend Bhakta did make some mistakes in his book on orchids of Nepal.
Infact his images Malaxis biaurita, Malaxis josephiana, Malaxis khasiana, Malaxis acuminata and Malaxis purpurea are all same and all are Malaxis purpurea.
There has been a lot of confusion in this group which was started by Seidenfaden himself and it was carried forward by his followers. Sad but true.
Here attached are images of three species. I am still trying to make out what is first one as I believe its a new species. Second one is Crepidium purpureum and third one is Crepidium acuminatum.
Hope this helps.
Pankaj


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 11, 2016, 10:20:37 PM7/11/16
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Thanks a lot Pankaj ji

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 11, 2016, 10:59:07 PM7/11/16
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Dear Pankaj ji !

Thank you very much . Only confusion is stem base is purplish in Purpurea whereas my sample is pure green ! By the way  you are the expert and I am not .

Thsnk you

Saroj Kasaju

Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 11, 2016, 11:08:36 PM7/11/16
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Dear sir
Stem base colour has no taxonomic value sir. Infact Crepidium purpureum can have yellow, orange or green coloured flower too. Originally from Sri Lanka the flowers were red hence named purpurea.
Here is a flower pic from Sri Lanka (red) and Uttarakhand (yellow).
These pics are large so may not go on to our group.
Thanks and regards
Pankaj

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 11, 2016, 11:17:19 PM7/11/16
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Dear Pankaj ji,

Thank you indeed ! By the way I shall forward some old pictures of Malaxis for further verification!

Thank you once again !

Saroj Kasaju

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Jul 21, 2019, 9:30:29 PM7/21/19
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ok this is a bit confusing, but I think this is Crepidium biaurita and not purpureum.
Its a bit mature flower so colour changed. It happens. If you look at the centre of some flowers, you can see the mounts.
Sorry for wrong identification.
Pankaj


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J.M. Garg

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Jul 21, 2019, 10:53:11 PM7/21/19
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Thanks, Pankaj ji 

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Jul 21, 2019, 10:54:04 PM7/21/19
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Jul 22, 2019, 6:51:40 AM7/22/19
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Thank you Pankaj !

Saroj Kasaju

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