Identification of tree

[msawm...@gmail.com]

Dear sirs,
              I'm attaching herewith one photo of tree for your identificatio. A middle sized tree; fruit not edible. Altitude : ca 1,400 m.


With regards,
M.Sawmliana

[Giby Kuriakose]

Please tell us the place, habitat and whether wild or not.

Regards
Giby

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[m sawmliana]

Place : Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram. Altitude : 1,350 - 1, 500 m. Habitat : Near village; hilly; tree forest. It grows wild.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Place : Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram. Altitude : 1,350 - 1, 500 m. Habitat : Near village; hilly; tree forest. It grows wild. - With regards, M.Sawmliana

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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	Place : Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram. Altitude : 1,350 - 1, 500 m. Habitat : Near village; hilly; tree forest. It grows wild. - With regards, M.Sawmliana

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Unidentified Forest tree from Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram

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On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 8:50:14 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

	Place : Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram. Altitude : 1,350 - 1, 500 m. Habitat : Near village; hilly; tree forest. It grows wild. - With regards, M.Sawmliana

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Date: 11 March 2014 17:04
Subject: [efloraofindia:183662] Identification of tree
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Dear sirs,
              I'm attaching herewith one photo of tree for your identificatio. A middle sized tree; fruit not edible. Altitude : ca 1,400 m.


With regards,
M.Sawmliana

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Unidentified Forest tree from Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

Could you identify this one?

If not, pl. post other and high resolution images .

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Casearia sp. ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov, 2020, 7:07 am
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:183662] Identification of tree
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Sir, sorry ! not available good photo. Probably Syzygium balsameum. But fruit not eaten

[M Sawmliana]

You are welcome sir

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Place : Hmuifang, Aizawl district, Mizoram. Altitude : 1,350 - 1, 500 m. Habitat : Near village; hilly; tree forest. It grows wild. - With regards, M.Sawmliana

Casearia sp. ?? Thank you. Saroj Kasaju

..., sorry ! not available good photo. Probably Syzygium balsameum. But fruit not eaten - from Sawmliana ji

Looks different from Syzygium balsameum as per GBIF. Looks different from Casearia also. Can it be from Rutaceae?- from me.

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[J.M. Garg]

This is a member of Rutaceae
Most probably Atalantia sp.
Atalantia simplicifolia (Roxb.) Engl.
Kind regards,
Varun

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 18:03, Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary <klchau...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Garg ji, 

The flowers do look like Rutaceae...

Fruits? 

Possibly Rutaceae from my side. 

Regards 

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[navendu page]

Its a species of Ilex

Navendu

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Navendu ji.

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[J.M. Garg]

Another two images.

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov, 2020, 7:07 am
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To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Sir, sorry ! not available good photo. Probably Syzygium balsameum. But fruit not eaten

On Thu, 5 Nov, 2020, 11:52 am J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji

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On Sun, 8 Nov, 2020, 8:49 am Kanhaiya Lal Chaudhary, <klchau...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sapotaceae by any chance?

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

What are the Ilex species reported from area ?

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Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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On Mon, 9 Nov, 2020, 2:11 pm M Sawmliana, <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir, Ilex godajam and Ilex umbellulata are recoded in Mizoram

[J.M. Garg]

Are you sure that fruiting and flowering images are from the same tree ?

Leaves appear OK but Fruits are much smaller in Ilex godajam and Ilex umbellulata as per GBIF.

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[J.M. Garg]

Varun ji's suggestion seem better as per GBIF speciemens of Atalantia simplicifolia (Roxb.) Engl. :

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.2018196%2Fformat%2Flarge

https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FU.1585280%2Fformat%2Flarge

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

What are the Atalantia species reported from your area?

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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On Thu, 12 Nov, 2020, 11:39 am M Sawmliana, <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir, only Atalantia simplicifolia is recorded in Mizoram

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

May I request you to pl. post a high resolution image of this to check with the Plant illustration

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

I am asking you for a high resolution version of the posted image.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 09:16, M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir, Sorry !! Good photograph is not available. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov, 2020, 10:53 am
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Sir, photo which was taken by Rollfilm Camera is attached herewith for n/a. The flower one is not available because my old photos were formatted.

[J.M. Garg]

I also checked with comparative images at Sapotaceae. Closest I can go is Mimusops elengi L.. It looks close, but petioles are small in the specimen.

I am having doubts about (as per GBIF specimens of) Atalantia simplicifolia (Roxb.) Engl. due to Columnar ovary/style/stigma in the flowering image.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 18:14, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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On Sun, 15 Nov, 2020, 6:10 pm M Sawmliana, <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes. BSI, Shilong also identified this tree as Mimusops elengi L. And Eugenia balsamea Wall by Central National Herbarium, BSI, Howrah.

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Sawmliana ji,

If the fruiting image is Mimusops elengi L.., tha flowering image will be of some other tree.

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[J.M. Garg]

Image with flowers represents characters of Rutaceae member, whereas images with fruits are not clear enough to find exact species.
Kind regards,
Varun

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji

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Yes, may be. But t ofhe fruiting image is also slightly  different.  Fruit not eaten and growing wild, not cultivated.