SK 3016 05 October 2021

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location:Jumla, West Nepal

Altitude:  2153m.

Date: 17 August 2021 

Habit : Wild 

Lamiaceaec.... ???

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:49 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:49 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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J.M.Garg

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Resembles Teucrium,

With regards. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Paradesi ji.

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Paradesi ji.

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Paradesi ji.

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.

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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too.
Sampath Kumar

Thanks a lot, Sampath ji.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Sampath Ji,

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.

I guess it should be from lamiaceae!

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein.

Maybe some other genus.- from me

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too. Sampath Kumar

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match.

I guess it should be from lamiaceae! Saroj Kasaju

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 16:34
Subject: SK 3016 05 October 2021
To: efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein. Maybe some other genus.- from me

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too. Sampath Kumar

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match. I guess it should be from lamiaceae! Saroj Kasaju

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 16:34
Subject: SK 3016 05 October 2021
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J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rawat ji

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May be some Mentha.

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lamiaceae/mentha

DSRawat, Pantnagar

On Sun, 31 Oct, 2021, 2:55 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Resembles Teucrium- from Paradesi ji

I do not think it is Teucrium, as per comparative images herein. Maybe some other genus.- from me

Some Buddlejaceae /Loganiaceae members also looks like this. Please check that too. Sampath Kumar

I checked all Loganiaceae from Nepal but could not find a match. I guess it should be from lamiaceae! Saroj Kasaju

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Rawat ji, for the id.

It appears close to images at Mentha longifolia (L.) Huds. subsp. hymalaiensis Briq.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Rawat Ji for the lead!

Request for further opinion.

Mentha longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis is not found listed in Nepal.

However, Mentha longifolia is listed in the Book of Karnali.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

There is a lot of taxonomic confusion between the two. 

Pl. see discussions at Mentha longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis

As per keys in Flora of Pakistan, 
4 (3) Leaves sessile or almost so 4 Mentha longifolia
+Leaves with a 2-8 (-15) mm petiole (5)    
5 (4) Calyx 3-4 mm; stem and leaves with a thin indumentum; plants sterile 3 Mentha X piperita
+Calyx 1.5-2 mm; stem and leaves with a prominent indumentum; plants fertile 5 Mentha royleana

I can see the petiole in your images. So it should be Mentha royleana (syn. of Mentha longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis)

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[Saroj Kasaju]

POWO and GBIF says M. longifolia subsp. hymalaiensis  and M. royleana are 

different and bot not having dustributon in Nepal.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju