ANMAR01/01 Please identify this Ixora sp.

[Anurag Sharma]

Both Biotik and JCB say that I. brachiata is endemic to western ghats but this was found in a scrub forest within Bangalore. Could it be another species?

Family: Rubiaceae
Date: 1st March 2015
Place: Turahalli, Bangalore, Karnataka
Habit: Short tree

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Ixora brachiata   ‎Ixora - species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

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[radha veach]

I think it is Ixora pavetta

regards
Radja

On 08/03/2015, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> efi page on Ixora brachiata

> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/ixora/ixora-brachiata>
>
> ‎Ixora
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rubiaceae/ixora>

> - species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/
> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)
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> Date: 1 March 2015 at 20:32
> Subject: [efloraofindia:217190] ANMAR01/01 Please identify this Ixora sp.
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> Both Biotik <http://biotik.org/india/species/i/ixorbrac/ixorbrac_en.html>
> and JCB
> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=3994&cat=1>

> say that I. brachiata is endemic to western ghats but this was found in a
> scrub forest within Bangalore. Could it be another species?
>
> Family: Rubiaceae
> Date: 1st March 2015
> Place: Turahalli, Bangalore, Karnataka
> Habit: Short tree
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[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you ma'am. How is I. pavetta specifically identified?

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[radha veach]

I. pavetta has slightly larger flowers and the buds are elliptic. I could see what appear to be a few buds in one of your photos.
  In I. brachiata the buds are globose. The flowering season of I. brachiata seems to be shorter, at least in Sahyadris, and more restricted to the winter months.

Without the 2 plants side by side it is not easy to distinguish them from one another.

Experts please comment.

regards

Radha

[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you very much for explaining ma'am. Here is a cropped photo with a couple of buds visible.

[Ushadi Micromini]

a couple of years ago Gurcharanji has discussed it at length.. search for his name and Ixora and also pavetta

you'll find it

usha di

Usha di
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[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you ma'am. I did that. I dont know if I found the right one but what i did find seems to be different from what I photographed last week.

Radha ma'am, the corolla and the inflorescence seems to be different in this!

[radha veach]

Hi Anurag,

It certainly is quite different! The plant in the photos is one I've
only seen in cultivation, whereas I. pavetta syn. I. parviflora has a
wide distribution in India in the wild.

Please refer to Dr Almeida's Fl of Maharashtra vol 3 p.25 and photo
No. 7, and the description in Cooke's Flora and you may decide for
yourself.


regards
Radha

On 09/03/2015, Anurag Sharma <anurag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you ma'am. I did that. I dont know if I found the right one but what
> i did find seems to be different from what I photographed last week.
>
> Radha ma'am, the corolla and the inflorescence seems to be different in
> this

> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/ixora$2Bpavetta$2Bgurcharan/indiantreepix/0h-0aEari4M/meBofMOE74AJ>!

[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you so much for the clarification ma'am.

Could you please attach the photos of those sheets when possible? My college does not allow UG students into the PG library. :-/

[radha veach]

Hi Anurag,

I hope these will be helpful.

Also please have a look at http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/31460,
and if you get a chance see Pradip Krishen's Jungle Trees of Central India

[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you very much ma'am. They were very helpful.

And yes, I will pop by a nearby bookstore and take a look at the book by Pradip Kishen.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Ixora brachiata

‎Ixora - species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

I think it is Ixora pavetta regards

Radha

Thank you ma'am. How is I. pavetta specifically identified?-- Anurag N. Sharma

I. pavetta has slightly larger flowers and the buds are elliptic. I could see what appear to be a few buds in one of your photos.   In I. brachiata the buds are globose. The flowering season of I. brachiata seems to be shorter, at least in Sahyadris, and more restricted to the winter months. Without the 2 plants side by side it is not easy to distinguish them from one another. Experts please comment. regards Radha

Thank you very much for explaining ma'am. Here is a cropped photo with a couple of buds visible.- from Anurag ji

a couple of years ago Gurcharanji has discussed it at length.. search for his name and Ixora and also pavetta you'll find it usha di

Thank you ma'am. I did that. I dont know if I found the right one but what i did find seems to be different from what I photographed last week. Radha ma'am, the corolla and the inflorescence seems to be different in this!  - from Anurag ji

It certainly is quite different!  The plant in the photos is one I've only seen in cultivation, whereas I. pavetta syn. I. parviflora has a wide distribution in India in the wild. Please refer to Dr Almeida's Fl of Maharashtra vol 3 p.25 and photo No. 7, and the description in Cooke's Flora and you may decide for yourself. regards Radha

Thank you so much for the clarification ma'am. Could you please attach the photos of those sheets when possible? My college does not allow UG students into the PG library. :-/   - from Anurag ji

I hope these will be helpful. Attachments (3)

Also please have a look at http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/31460, and if you get a chance see Pradip Krishen's Jungle Trees of Central India

Thank you very much ma'am. They were very helpful. And yes, I will pop by a nearby bookstore and take a look at the book by Pradip Kishen. - from Anurag ji.

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[surajit koley]

eFI data relating both the concerned species is very confusing, be it nature of inflorescence, shape of buds, or flowering season. Distribution is very important factor.

I agree with Ms Radha on ID, but not on points raised to justify the ID, simply because it contradicts the identification of several other threads.

So, I would rather like to wait for Dr. Santhosh Kumar, Dr. Satish Phadke, Dr. Gurcharan Singh and Mr. Dinesh Valke to know the actual ID of this species.

Thank you

Regards

surajit

[Anurag Sharma]

Thank you Surajit sir.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Ixora species- Turahalli, Bangalore, Karnataka 

Group discussion at

ANMAR01/01 Please identify this Ixora sp. (google.com) 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Ixora species- Turahalli, Bangalore, Karnataka 

Group discussion at

ANMAR01/01 Please identify this Ixora sp. (google.com) 

[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess Ixora pavetta Andrews !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks Saroj ji, looks good ID.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

My pleasure!

Thank you Gurucharan Sir

Saroj Kasaju

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