DV :: 01 AUG 12 - 0851 :: ¿ Solena amplexicaulis ? along Govind Ghat - Ghangaria trail

[Dinesh Valke]

1 AUG 12 Govind Ghat - Ghangaria trail ... 5800 - 10160 ft

Dear friends, ID please. Habitat: along trail on mountain slope Habit: climber, aspects of flower resembles Solena amplexicaulis ... however the fruit seems different from that observed in Western Ghats.

Regards. Dinesh

[Nayan Singh]

Looks like Diplocyclos palmatus syn Bryonopsis palmatus

 

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Nayan.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Many many thanks Nayan ji for this probable ID.
Will wait for validating comment(s).
Regards.
Dinesh

[Gurcharan Singh]

Perhaps yes

Here are ours from Chakrata: both species

Diplocyclos

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/2GvMucEhgK0/pIpVRKk45fUJ%5B1-25%5D 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Diplocyclos$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/ia3PzKAPr0Y/TRqIbJ-mAc4J%5B1-25%5D 

Solena

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Solena$20Gurcharan/indiantreepix/tUFL_B3VxFI/Q14jQds4z3UJ%5B1-25%5D

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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[Balkar Singh]

To me it looks like Solena amplexicaulis 

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[Dinesh Valke]

Dear all,
Putting pictures for comparison:

Posted plant	Solena amplexicaulis	Diplocyclos palmatus

Regards.
Dinesh

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Solena appears the closest choice.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Balkar Singh]

Yes Sir leaves and flowers are different in both and clearly seen in Dinesh Ji's Post

[Dinesh Valke]

Need clarification regarding whether shape of Solena amplexicaulis does vary.
Regards.
Dinesh

[Balkar Singh]

Yes Dinesh Ji leaf shape varies but not of flowers

pls see attached picture of mine shot from Govindghat-Ghangriya Trek

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dinesh ji

Tendrils in focus should be conclusive, as leaves can vary. Tendrils are simple in Solena, forked in Diplocyclos

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Dinesh Valke]

Apologies Gurcharan ji, the word "fruit" got omitted in my response:

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Need clarification regarding whether shape of Solena amplexicaulis fruit does vary.
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My concern is about the fruit in the posted plant - is kind of ellipsoid with pointed ends, with no signs of ridges; ... in the comparative pictures, have posted a Solena amplexicaulis fruit which in growing stage is already elongated, shows hint of ridges too.


Regards.
Dinesh

[Gurcharan Singh]

Young fruit always looks different from a mature fruit. You should concentrate on shape of corolla: in Solena and your plant corolla lobes are very small and somewhat recurved, in Diplocyclos they are very long (tube very small) and spreading. Also in your specimens I could not detect any forked tendril. I think we better go with Solena only.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Dinesh Valke]

OK Gurcharan ji. Many many thanks for this clarification.
Regards.
Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

I think it should be Solena heterophylla Lour. (may be subsp. napaulensis) as per attachment (DeWilde_Solena_Blumea2004 (1).pdf)

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[Dinesh Valke]

Garg ji,

I am taking this as Solena heterophylla subsp. napaulensis (Ser.) W.J.de Wilde & Duyfjes ... as the fruits in the observation, I think are a good match.

Regards,

Dinesh